Inges vom Rauber Hotzenplotz attacks new owner - Page 10

I do think it's true that dogs will go for the weak one in a fight, but I have to say, honestly, from what I've seen w/my own dogs and others I know well, it's a weaker dog to start with. I'm not talking about Inges here at all; I think that's a different story, but in general, I think a weaker dog is more likely to team up w/whoever is winning. I have seen it in dog fights; two go at it, and the weaker onlooker decides to jump in and be on the winning team, when that dog would ordinarily never do anything like that; it's an opportunity for elevation in structure or rank, IMO.

Yes, that's what I meant. Only speaking of dog on dog. To a dog w/a screw loose (again,not insinuating anything about Ignes...don't know enough), perhaps this would cross over canid lines and into humans. <shrug> Dunno.

When you ........ missbeeb and trafalger .......... say  "bite the weaker of the two" again you are implying that a dog has the capacity to form an immediate (hunting/fighting) PACK with a total stranger.   Sorry ............ that just does not happen.   Not with any dog ...... good or bad .... trained or un-trained .......... loved or mistreated.  None ..... EVER.   They don't form immediate packs with each other.

Anyone have an example of where this happened ......... I don't mind being proven wrong.

LOL.

No problem .............. appearantly I haven't made my point clear either ........ :)   which is in a "real life" scenario ......  most (not all) but most would do nothing if not previously trained in civil bites.    And yes .......... my percentage is guesswork based on roughly the number of good ( by that I mean ...... stable and confident) dogs I've had and others that I've known and the appoximate number of which might be capable of really biting someone without a sleeve.  

I think I've learned quite a bit on this thread, thanks.

Housewife?  No.  Keyboard warrier?  No.

So... I'll try once again Bancroft, what is it that you've achieved with your dogs... over the few years you've been in the breed?  Oh, yeah... nothing!  But you're pretty good at taking others knowledge and trying to pass if off as your own.

As for you suggestion... should I get an experienced person to help me with this... or will the likes of you do?
 
 

We don't ........... we all just have our opinions based on our own expiriences with the dogs we've been in contact with.  There is a wealth of great info on here and a ton of people that know a lot more than me.   But then there are those who have no knowledge of drives or pack bahavoir and have never come close to training the type of dog that initiated this thread ..... so they make stuff up that is totally off the wall.   Those are the ones we need to watch out for.  I guess the bottom line is to always consider the sourse.  If someone is commenting on a schutzhund dog that has never trained one ......... and doesn't understand that the majority work in prey ..... then we need to take they're comments with a grain of salt.   It's the ones that have done muzzle work towards protection that I pay attention to ..... unless I think I can clarify something for someone.  Which by the way ...... I'm not very good at.