USA or WDA? Breed Dynamics In The US - Page 12

Alphabet soup!
david

Momma,
I'm not sure what your last post directed to me is really about, but, for reference sake the group of people I train with are a mixed bunch also.
Half of my training group will be competing at a UScA event this weekend and the other half will be competing at a WDA event because they have an SV judge.
Further, the WDA Sieger Show was held this year at the park my group trains at, and the reason it was held there, and the WDA trial this weekend as well, is because of exactly the fact that my group trains there and one of my group members recommended they hold these events there and got the park district on board with doing so.

As for moving the breed forward in this country, my belief is that this is best served by not associating with, nor supporting the GSDCA.
That is why I do not and I am more than willing to share with anyone who asks why.
I also believe that many of the people who are members of the WDA choose to put the blinders on concerning the GSDCA. I never will.
That is my belief, but, as you can see with the above statement in the first paragrah I do not villify those who do.
That is each individual's choice.

EliDog,
Wouldn't it make more sense to get an AWDF scorebook?
That will solve your problem.

Earlier you commented about not being able to do helper work or be a trial secretary for your WDA club.
This is also easily solved with you being a Rottweiler guy.
You are a USRC member. USRC is a member club of the AWDF.
This gets you in to any UScA event. (Exceptions being the UScA Nationals and the Sieger Show which you can't compete at with a Rottweiler anyway)
You don't need to be a member of UScA.
You can then join the WDA and do helper and trial secretary work for your club.

Grewe did not author the notorious JA as stated by the Director of judges at the 2010 general meeting in Carson City.  It was rather an executive board creation and Grewe is taking the heat for it. That meeting had the highest club participation in decades spurred by discussion of JA.  Fortyfive percent of clubs voted to rescindf the individual member restrictions thus making JA applicable only to certain officers.  The board thought they had a mandate to retain JA.  JA was an ill-concieved effort to boost USCA numbers and hurt WDA numbers to show the SV who's boss in America.  Portions of JA would not  survive a constitutional review.  When challenged, USCA president cited a rule from Germany on "privilege to discriminate."

"Portions of JA would not  survive a constitutional review."

That's a mighty bold statement.
Care to elaborate which portion of the Constitution the JA is violative of?

I'm always amazed at what some people view as discrmination.
Better go back and read your hornbook on this one.

whew....someone is spewing nonsense confusing it with truth....constitutional review...what a crock. The officers have just taken office....Let the seats get a tad warm before you start to fry them

OGBS, you cannot get an AWDF book through USCA now if you don't already have one as of January 1 and your dog already has another book.  I just learned this (from a newly elected officer).  Up until January 1, you could get a second book as long as you stopped using the original, but as of January 1 it is now against FCI rules to even be issued a second book for a dog that already has one even if you plan to stop using the original one.  You have to get whatever book you have certified by the USCA or you are in violation of the FCI rule which the USCA is apparently upholding.  If someone has a WDA book issued by the WDA, you have to send it back into the WDA to be re-issued jointly by the GSDCA (because USCA will *not* certify a book issued by the WDA since the WDA is not a WUSV member, the GSDCA is).  Then you can get *that* book "certified" by USCA.  You also have to be a member of a WUSV club (I think) so if you're trying to be able to trial with a dog that was doing WDA trials up until this point you'd have to join USCA or SV or something other than just WDA as well.

I have a question....
Does training at WDA club or participating at WDA event make individual UScA member affiliated with a competing GSD organization in the US?
How would you define affiliation?

Seby,

No.

Its a "free" country.

And, Seby, if WDA fits your needs that is most excellent.  Work hard within it, improve it, and see that it prospers.

WDA does some things very well and it is incumbent upon UScA to strive for that same improvement.  As someone noted earlier, our breed registry is a joke and brings no value to our membership.  This, like all of the "issues" challenging both organizations is fixable with diligent, capable leadership.

From there, we will all see where the proverbial chips fall as to who thrives.  As always, membership will be the final arbiter as they vote via their choice.

Pretty darn good American concept if you ask me....

Kevin