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by ciara1 on 21 August 2011 - 12:08
Oh my goodness, this thread is truly interesting.. I see a lack of communication between handler & decoy.. Which, has caused a major misfortune to all concerned. Now, directing this to the decoy, it is your responsibility, to teach the dog, where it is to bite.. LMAO.... Years ago, a simular situation occured with one of my dogs., yes I was 17 yrs old, and the trainer instructed me to release my dog... and send off.. LMAO, as a young lady, and knowing my responsibility I told him, no the dog is *NOT READY TO BE RELEASED.. Go figure this was my first attempt at any type of Protection work.. Thus, I am very proud that I defied the instructors directions. Why? When I and my Doberman went in for the bite, yes together meaning my bitch was on leash.. The dog, directed past the sleeve for the throat.. I then called the dog off and returned to my place. The secondary instructor approached yelling: HANG YOUR DOG! I looked at this idiot and said, NO I will not hang my dog.. She did as asked, she directed high, and I redirected by reforcing the *OUT*! The so called instructor, flipped a gasket as I would not do as he instructed. I then yelled back at him, stating:
I and my dog are novices and green in this area, thus it is your responsibility along with the decoys to direct where the dog should bite. Needless to say, this 17 yr old novice, handler got her point across,. How, and why? The secondary instructor brought his female Bouvier out, he sent the dog......... and go figure the dog, also by passed the sleeve, to what? Knock the decoy on his ass, to bite his ear off...
Aspects of all training skilled individuals:
1) Proper communication between, trainers, handlers, decoys.
2) Make sure both handler and dog are ready to complete the protection work! If they are not, then don't promote.
3) Make sure the dog is not a soft dog or fear biter, and if the dog is, inform your dog owner of your concerns. Don't train a dog or owner in areas they *CANNOT HANDLE*!
*LEARN TO WORK AS A TEAM*!
If you the trainer, decoy cannot offer these areas in your program! Then its time to take the high road, shut you're facility down, leave the training for those who actually know what they're doing..
We have to many *MESSED UP DOGS< OWNERS...
Waves to Kim, how ya doing my man.. sent you a Pm... *)
I and my dog are novices and green in this area, thus it is your responsibility along with the decoys to direct where the dog should bite. Needless to say, this 17 yr old novice, handler got her point across,. How, and why? The secondary instructor brought his female Bouvier out, he sent the dog......... and go figure the dog, also by passed the sleeve, to what? Knock the decoy on his ass, to bite his ear off...
Aspects of all training skilled individuals:
1) Proper communication between, trainers, handlers, decoys.
2) Make sure both handler and dog are ready to complete the protection work! If they are not, then don't promote.
3) Make sure the dog is not a soft dog or fear biter, and if the dog is, inform your dog owner of your concerns. Don't train a dog or owner in areas they *CANNOT HANDLE*!
*LEARN TO WORK AS A TEAM*!
If you the trainer, decoy cannot offer these areas in your program! Then its time to take the high road, shut you're facility down, leave the training for those who actually know what they're doing..
We have to many *MESSED UP DOGS< OWNERS...
Waves to Kim, how ya doing my man.. sent you a Pm... *)
by mikekimbo on 21 August 2011 - 16:08
someone please tell me its a joke 
by Niesia on 21 August 2011 - 21:08
I was pre-warned by a person who’s been in years in this business.
‘Be careful – the trainer/instructor/decoy can ruin your dog for this sport in the first 5 minutes.’ They may do it because they are inexperienced, have a bad day or they can purposely do it because they don’t like your dog and want to proof to you that he’s worthless.
New handler + novice trainer can be a lethal combination.
BTW - my girl's 'natural' style is to knock you off your feet and pin you down holding your neck in her teeth. I think it's her instinct telling her what is the best way of taking the aggressor down... Even my untrained small mix I had years ago would launch herself pass the stick after the hand that was holding it (she was to small to reach the neck)... Attacking the sleve has to be taught.
‘Be careful – the trainer/instructor/decoy can ruin your dog for this sport in the first 5 minutes.’ They may do it because they are inexperienced, have a bad day or they can purposely do it because they don’t like your dog and want to proof to you that he’s worthless.
New handler + novice trainer can be a lethal combination.
BTW - my girl's 'natural' style is to knock you off your feet and pin you down holding your neck in her teeth. I think it's her instinct telling her what is the best way of taking the aggressor down... Even my untrained small mix I had years ago would launch herself pass the stick after the hand that was holding it (she was to small to reach the neck)... Attacking the sleve has to be taught.
by ciara1 on 21 August 2011 - 21:08
Very well directed and informed Niesta... thank you for sharing..
by sueincc on 02 September 2011 - 16:09
I just love fairytales.
by VomMarischal on 03 September 2011 - 22:09
All I can think is, if it was me handling on asphalt, I'd have no front teeth.
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