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by hodie on 19 October 2008 - 16:10

Blitzen,

You said it more than once....."you can't fix stupid". And apparently, one cannot fix people who want to believe what they want to believe...

I want to copy pages like this and in a year post it again so all these dooms dayers with ridiculous claims will have to eat their words. But by then, most will still be going home after work, sitting down and opening their cold one and watching crap like the Simpsons. And they will still be wondering why certain things cannot be repaired in our society........


by Sammie on 19 October 2008 - 16:10

Blitzen,

  Which votes and quotes show Obama is an anti-gun activist?  Are you kidding??  Here are several directly from "Fact Check":

Obama, 2003: While a complete ban on handguns is not politically practicable, I believe reasonable restrictions on the sale and possession of handguns are necessary to protect the public safety. In the Illinois Senate last year, I supported a package of bills to limit individual Illinoisans to purchasing one handgun a month; require all promoters and sellers at firearms shows to carry a state license; allow civil liability for death or injuries caused by handguns; and require FOID applicants to apply in person. I would support similar efforts at the federal level, including retaining the Brady Law."

 

  Obama in 2001 Chicago Defender:  I'll continue to be in favor of handgun law registration requirements and licensing requirements

 

 In 2004, while running for the Democratic nomination for the Senate seat he now holds, Obama indeed called for "national legislation" to prevent anyone but law enforcers from carrying concealed firearms.

 

Obama's "Urban Policy" fact sheet says he "supports making the expired federal Assault Weapons Ban permanent, as such weapons belong on foreign battlefields and not on our streets

I could go on just from "Fact Check" web-site.  But I think this is plenty enough evidence that Obama opposes private gun-ownership and will continue to support laws to abolish it.   

 


RatPackKing

by RatPackKing on 19 October 2008 - 16:10

Hmmmm............

http://hillbuzz.wordpress.com/2008/10/18/breaking-john-kerry-has-won-all-three-debates-and-is-leading-by-10-points-in-13-key-swing-states/

From the CBC, October 17, 2004 ... John Kerry appealed to African-American voters on Sunday, as he pushed ahead with his campaign to unseat George W. Bush. Kerry promised the voters, many of whom feel the Republicans are trying to keep them off the voter lists, “We’re not going to let this be just a repeat of 2000. We’re not going to see a million African-Americans deprived of their votes in America,” he said. With just 16 days to go until the vote, the race couldn’t be tighter. Polls suggest a dead heat. Even Republican organizers concede the Democratic senator has benefited from his performance in the three presidential debates. And a Washington Post poll shows Kerry with a significant lead in important states that could decide the outcome of the election. The poll found Kerry held a 53 per cent to 43 per cent lead among likely voters in 13 such states. While Kerry was campaigning in two of those states on Sunday - Ohio and Florida - Bush took the day off, choosing instead to concentrate on a major speech on terrorism he is scheduled to deliver in New Jersey on Monday. Analysts say it is the handful of crucial swing states, like Ohio, Pennsylvania and Florida that will be most important on Nov. 2. Those states will be heavily targeted by both campaigns in the closing weeks of the race.

There ya go my liberal friends, don't you feel more like you do now than you did before?

RPK

 


by hodie on 19 October 2008 - 16:10

Sammie, apparently you cannot read what you just posted, or comprehend it. NOWHERE does it say he is opposed to private gun  ownership. It does state that he has ideas about restrictions and frankly, I think they are reasonable. Who the hell needs to buy more than one handgun a month? Or own an assault rifle? Registration for gun owners should be continued. There is nothing here to support your statement.


RatPackKing

by RatPackKing on 19 October 2008 - 16:10

Well now,

http://www.redstate.com/diaries/redstate/2008/jul/14/barack-obama-voted-four-times-to-allow-crimin/

Barack Obama's rapid reversal from opposition to agreement on the issue would make mere mortals snap in half under all the G-forces......LOL!!!!!!!!

RPK


by Sammie on 19 October 2008 - 16:10

Hodie,

  When a person supports  banning guns, preventing people other than police from carrying them, limiting how many a person can purchase, requiring private citizens to have a license to sell a personal firearm, requiring registration of firearms, allowing frivolous lawsuits against manufacturers in an attempt to banckrupt them; then yes this demonstrates that this person opposes private ownership and if it became "politically practicable"  (Obama verbage) would abolish it. 

Perhaps it is you that can neither read nor comprehend.    


by hodie on 19 October 2008 - 16:10

 RPK, you better find your 6 pack and settle in. You are going to be one unhappy person when the election is over. Obama will be elected. Why? For the exact reasons Colin Powell stated this morning: McCain, as fine a man as he is, represents the status quo, with a maverick twist. We cannot stand an administration that stays the course of the last 8 years. Things MUST change, and change in a completely different direction. And we need a ticket that provides a VP candidate who is creditable. Palin isn't, nor is she ethical. And by the way, God did not tell me that we should go to Iraq.....

Hopefully, in time, you will moderate your ideas to see that Obama is not the devil, a Muslim, a believer in terrorism, or any of the other ridiculous things people have tried to hang on him.


by TessJ10 on 19 October 2008 - 16:10

I think that Obama definitely had to learn a lot about the gun issue.  The point is, HE DID.  That's yet another reason a lot of us are voting for him.  He LEARNED how important guns are to law-abiding Americans.  His willingness to learn and adapt is a PLUS.  It makes him totally unlike the present administration who never, ever learn anything, who refuse to admit to mistakes or misunderstandings and pretend that they never happened, which is just ridiculous.

Obama has the honesty to grow and evolve.  Go, Obama/Biden!

Ex-McCain supporter,

Me

I know McCain is a decent man, and I think he's horrified by finding himself in the middle of the "Kill him!" "Abomination!" and "He's an A-rab!" crowds - but we need CHANGE from the party that worked very hard to foster divisiveness in the U.S., and you reap what you sow.  hodie & Colin Powell are exactly right.

 


sueincc

by sueincc on 19 October 2008 - 17:10

I suppose the McCain/Palin backers are busy trying to dig up dirt on General Colin Powell, and when they can't find any, they will make some up, as they have done with Obama, regardless of the fact that General Colin Powell is a war hero, something they profess to care about.

http://www.iht.com/articles/2008/10/19/america/19powell.php

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27265369/

"But he said McCain’s choices in the last few weeks — especially his selection of Gov. Sarah Palin of Alaska as his vice presidential running mate — had raised questions in his mind about McCain’s judgement. “I don’t believe [Palin] is ready to be president of the United States,” Powell said flatly. By contrast, Obama’s running mate, Sen. Joe Biden of Delaware, “is ready to be president on day one.”

Powell also said he was “troubled” by Republican personal attacks on Obama, especially false intimations that Obama was Muslim and Republicans’ recent focus on Obama’s alleged connections to William Ayers, the founder of the radical ’60 Weather Underground.. ......... Powell denounced Republican tactics that he said were insulting not only to to Obama but also to Muslims............"I look at these kind of approaches to the campaign, and they trouble me,” Powell said. “Over the last seven weeks, the approach of the Republican Party has become narrower and narrower.........In particular, he said, he welcomed Obama’s president to “talk to people we haven’t talked to,” a reference to Obama’s controversial statement that he would be open to direct diplomacy with Iranian leaders.

“I think that [Obama] has a definite way of doing business that will serve us well,” Powell said


RatPackKing

by RatPackKing on 19 October 2008 - 17:10

Well hodie,

if Obama wins, first and foremost, I will be too busy working. (Somebody has to pay for the massive wealth transfer programs Obama wants to implement).........Nor will I have time to go out in the streets with giant puppet heads and "ObamaHitler" signs either

RPK






 


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