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by crhuerta on 14 April 2008 - 06:04

CONGRATS to ALL who entered and did their best!

Not to rain on anyone's parade....but I too though after looking at the "final" class sizes....that there were way too many VA titles awarded......wow!... nearly 50% of each class........(final amount of dogs finishing each class)........

I really like a few of the dogs.......BUT......I always believed that the VA title was awarded to the elite few.........

by eichenluft on 14 April 2008 - 06:04

Juneau is handler-owner-trained/raised by a man in VA - family dog too - I would think he could be a good candidate for US - however he is not yet Schh3. not sure if being Schh3 when competing at the SS is a requirement for US in the same year, but I would think so...

molly

by VonIsengard on 14 April 2008 - 11:04

crhuerta- you took the words right out of my mouth.

I noticed a "SUF" rating previously posted was an "a" when the working class males were posted. A typo, or...?

I see VA Ronaldo is a Universal candidate. When will it be decided? GSD Nationals? I thought it was awarded after the Sieger show.

by CrashKerry on 14 April 2008 - 14:04

The Universal Sieger is awarded after the GSD Nationals, based on the rating received at the Sieger Show and the dog's performance at the Nationals.

I don't know anything about the dog, but there was an Ellute son shown who received an SG rating - Ulrich vom Hammerbachthal. He's also declared for Universal Sieger.

by Blitzen on 14 April 2008 - 14:04

To make Juneau's accomplishment even sweeter, I believe he is the first dog ever trained by this owner who is a very busy professional. That's a huge accomplishment in my book.

by Mystere on 14 April 2008 - 14:04

Wanderer: Please don't try to put words in my mouth, especially when you misread. My reference to "Midnight trials" was quite specific and easily discerned by those who have seen the trial results from a California club (also referenced). The ONLY reference to Heidi by me was about the dog's name--set off from the other references to make that clear.

by vdSauk on 14 April 2008 - 14:04

I've seen Juneau train, when he was really sorta starting out as a younger dog (not as a pup) he is a very nice male. Ravi does an amazing job with the dog. He is a talented handler and very professional. He takes his job on the field seriously and Juneau is certainly worthy of the title.

He's got my support. I saw him train 2 weeks ago Friday, the first time I saw him train in almost a year, nice dog, and Ravi is a great handler with him. He really reads his dog well. I hope his hard work will pay off, he is very deserving of this title if he recieves it!

Shannon

by Mystere on 14 April 2008 - 14:04

Ule WILL have to score 270 in a USA trial and prticipate in aa regional. As already indicated, Ule has shown an ability to do that in Canadian trials and the Canadian National Chanpionship under SV, Canadian and USA judges. So, my point is simply that this show line bitch is a real, viable candidate for Universal Sieger, in contrast to the Sch 3 males listed (obviously not Gismo (who pulled) or the Ellute son) who are unlikely to be trialed at a USA trial or regional. Therefore, they are NOT actually Universal Sieger candidates. But, I guess we will see over the next several months, when Ronaldo and the other males are trialed at USA trials and participate in a USA regional With the exception of dogs like Nimo, how often does anyone see the Sch 3 show line dogs who show at the USA and/or WDA Sieger Shows on the trial field in the US? It would be really nice to see multiple dogs in the running at the Championship in November. I just don't think it is likely (as usual).

by wanderer on 14 April 2008 - 15:04

Mystere, I'm not disputing Ule's ability and if you have seen her work and say she is a viable candidate, I don't doubt that she is. I checked the Canadian National Trial results for 2007 and this is what I found:

Not sure why you think she is a better candidate than all the males.

Ule v Temar GSD Karen Sinclair 58 84 88 a

by Mystere on 14 April 2008 - 15:04

Because Uli has scored V tracking more than once and MOSTLY, because I doubt you will be able to find ANY scores for most of the males from trials in this hemisphere (aside from possibly an OG Aqua Dolce trial...which proves my point.) Anyone who trains and trials knows that any dog can have a bad day in one or more phases in a trial. Stuff happens. :-) The Canadian Sieger Show and the Canadian Nationals are held together on the same weekend. As you probably know, the females tend to flunk the bitework in the show in droves and the males don't fare much better. How many of any were in the trial alongside Ule? :-) I am not saying Ule is "all that and a bag of chips." She is not my "preferred" type. BUT, she had repeatedly demonstrated that she can and does work, in trials in full view, in sharp contrast.

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