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Ace952

by Ace952 on 19 December 2010 - 06:12

I'm with Don on this.

Raymond woul;d you say the same for people that hunt?  I mean here you have animals running from men with guns.  Not like we are in a short supply of meat here in the U.S.

I take it hunting is different because???

Sitting in a tree or somewhere and wait for a defenseless animal to come to your bait so you can shoot it.

Jacko

by Jacko on 19 December 2010 - 07:12

we keep giving the same congress persons a blank check to manage our countries money and we think a guy having a dog is a bad thing.

Yep he did not do good with his dogs, but at least for the American's here we have much bigger fish to fry.  We are not worried about the guy who just got out on a meth charge having a dog at his meth lab are we??

Lets keep perspective here.


by gucci on 19 December 2010 - 12:12

 Yes,  it was a good post GSDsRock,...

by TessJ10 on 19 December 2010 - 12:12

So for all of you who refuse to accept your own country's system of punishment.  Do you think that anyone who has been caught in a crime, been punished and incarcerated, that that's it for them?  

The whole concept, which is a Christian concept btw (I don't know the details of other religions, but the USA system is based on punishment and then forgiveness - wonder how many of these "you must be punished forever and ever and ever and ever and ever" people are Christians?).

So that's the first question: you don't accept the premise of you do the time, you get to try again?  Very sad.

Second question:  Those of you posting against Vick: do you really believe that if the courts grant him permission to have a dog again, he's going to go right back into dog fighting?  You really believe that?  "people don't change" you write so he's either going to get right back into dog fighting or else he's going to drown the Pomeranian in the kitchen sink?


Ninja181

by Ninja181 on 19 December 2010 - 13:12

From my personal observations in life, people that can due what Mike Vick did to those animals have no conscience, scruples, ethics etc.

Yes in the “eyes of the law “ Vick has completed his sentence. But is the law always right? Remember the Law let double murderer OJ walk free?

I think forgiveness is a personal thing. I think if most people had a family member killed by a drunk driver who only was sentenced to a year in jail, they wouldn’t forgive him. Yet so called society would.

Just my $.02.


by TessJ10 on 19 December 2010 - 14:12

This is what matters legally, which is all he (and we) can live by:  "Yes in the “eyes of the law “ Vick has completed his sentence."

It's a legal matter.  Let's get one thing straight.  To say that those here who want to abide by the law have thus forgiven and forgotten the crime is simply not true.  You can still absolutely hate what he did but accept that he has been punished and is allowed to now have a life, provided he doesn't do it again.  If he does, he's gone.  If he doesn't, if he works hard and lives a good life, then he, and any other ex-con who is working hard and living a good life, should have our support.

If Vick came out of prison and stayed a thug, then sure, write him off.  I never thought he'd be able to come back the way he has after 2 years in jail, but he did.  I think in his case the system worked.  He thought he was all that and probably didn't ever believe that he, "Ron Mexico," ROTFL, was going to actually end up in jail.  Well, surprise, surprise.  I think he's the best example of scared straight.


Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 19 December 2010 - 15:12

If Vick didn't play football, none of the people claiming his so-called right to get on with his life would be defending him in this thread.  This is all about letting him off of the hook because they idolize him.  Spectator sports are for spectators in life.


by TessJ10 on 19 December 2010 - 15:12

"If Vick didn't play football, none of the people claiming his so-called right to get on with his life would be defending him in this thread."

hahahahaha, c'mon, Keith, that's utterly not true.

For me, I'm not defending what he did and I'm not defending him in particular.  What I am defending is the legal system that worked in this case: he broke the law, he got caught.  He got stopped, he got punished, he went to jail and now he's out.  It's because he plays football that we all know about him which is why he's the one getting discussed here and not any other dog-fighters out there who have done jail time and are now out living non-criminal lives.

And I think it's also because he does play football and therefore makes an enormous amount of money that people on here really hate him so much.   There's a certain type of person that really loves to see the high people fall.  And stay fallen.  Spoils their fun when the person rises from the ashes and goes on to success.



Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 19 December 2010 - 15:12

High people?  He's an illiterate thug.

by TessJ10 on 19 December 2010 - 15:12

No, I'm pretty sure he can read.  Probably had to learn so he could read those Acyclovir bottles.





 


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