American x West German showline crosses? - Page 6

I have an American Showline German Shepherd. She is gorgeous and would be the middle in a dog show. I also have an abosolutely perfect West German Showline Shepherd named Rommel. I have bred them many times and have recieved up to 1,500 dollars from the puppies. They turn out beautiful. I think if you have truly flawless dogs then it might work. I  have great confidence in my dogs. Many people love this new breed. It often turns out that they have the looks of Rommel and the personality of my bitch. I think the cross is perfect. The puppies to my suprise are absolutely perfect.

The never ending story,  never resolved.  Ever wonder why?

To each his own.

SSDD

I owned a German/American bitch years ago and she was total crap. Spayed her and gave her away. I was young and inexperienced and bought the breeder's "best of both worlds" BS.

I've trained quite a few over the years since then and not a damn one has been anything to write home about, let alone breedworthy. In my opinion there is absolutely nothing posistive American showlines bring to the table. Maybe decades ago there was, but not any more.

As many others have said, there are other alternatives for you to use. Why don't you post the pedigree of your bitch, I'm sure plenty people will have some ideas for you.

 Now For all of you who don't have shit dogs and crap in your backyard...You know the real ones..the REAL BREEDERS!!

Hey wake up..American Lines and theirs suppose problems comes from what?? GERMAN LINES!!

And I know a lot of people owning grman lines wiith HD and hemophi;ia..and bloat problems..and elbows problems..

I'm pretty sure most of you on't even know, or own a american gsd...

I've come too own both german and american lines...and i love both of them for their own caracteristic..

I would never crosse them tought..Don't want roach back and est and west feeth on my american GSD!!

For those of you who think HD is a big problem in USA..

I JUST RECEIVED REPORT FROM OFA TODAY..

2 GIRLS OFA GOOD HIP AND ELBOW

AND 1 OFA EXELLENT HIP AND ELBOW

not too bad hein!!

Okay, I'm going to throw my hat into the circus ring here...

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/523413.html

My year and a half old bitch, with what you might call 'the best of both worlds': Ursus on the German side, and Dallas (Kismet's Sight for Sore Eyes) on the American side.

What have I got? A nice girl, with good movement and structure, excellent prey and ball drive, superb temperment. She's gunsure, confident, friendly and a snap to train. I'm not doing Schutzhund with her, because I intend to give her hearing ear dog training, and service dogs are never supposed to have PPD or Schutzhund training. However, given her drives, the potential is there, and she can get seriously worked up over playing with a tug. I also think she has good herding instinct, as she's constantly trying to herd my male GSD. I'd like to do an instinct test with her sometime soon, and see if the herding drive wins out over the prey drive, or whether it's going to be lambchops for dinner!

She's not OFA'd yet, but the majority of her ancestors have good hips.

Her main faults are slightly weak ears, and poor, faded black pigment. I've been told the poor pigment is common in Ursus line bitches. Also, she's young, a ball of energy, and it takes her awhile to settle down and listen, especially if other dogs are around.

I did take her in a CKC conformation show, but was told she would have a very hard time winning anything, due to her faded pigment, and looking 'too German'.  So, we are focusing on training for obedience,  tracking and agility.

The Imp-Cen kennel did not show their dogs for many years. If you read their history, it was due to financial difficulties. They focused on keeping their line going by breeding only when necessary.  Perhaps due to this, their dogs are less angulated than most American lines.

Everyone is so quick to attack Am-bred GSDs... yet I've known a good number of [US] breeders who started with the Am GSDs because that was all they knew when they first got into the breed. How many [US] breeders would actually admit to that now, I wonder.

 *grabs flak vest and braces for impact*

This must be an extremely important topic for you to join to revive a years old thread!   I am a believer in ultimately having one GSD. I don't see it as you do though; where it constitues a new "breed" to blend lines. But to each his own.

I've had pm conversations with many here on the topic of blending the lines and would love to see your dogs. Are they registered on the DB?   I've seen a few Dallas grandpups at the local shows and I have to say they were really nice dogs.