** Steep croup/top line from top breeders ** Is this normal? - Page 67

I don't have Dog Steps anymore, Ibrhaim. I ended up giving most of my dog stuff to a young girl I was mentoring (in another breed). I thought I was done with dogs at the time, but here I am back again LOL.  It's worth the price but I think the video would be probably be better.

The Dog in  Motion (Lyons) was the first dog book I ever bought. It's very good too, based mainly on horse conformation but applicable to dogs as well. Lyons was very interested in the GSD and at the time he thought it was the only breed with a gait where all 4 feet left the ground at the same time - today we refer to that as the flying trot. He died before we had the advantage of stop action video, so he didn't realize that all dog breeds suspended (unless the dog is severely impared); it is just easier to see in the GSD. 

If I'd have to to pick one over the other, I'd go with the Dog Steps video.

Just googled power of front/back - almost all the power is coming out of the back - at least 90% seems to be correct - thank you, Ibrahim. That much about my theory...

"Call me crazy, but I tried dog trot of opposite legs movement myself on all my feet and hands and know it is true. I believe also gallop thrust comes maximum from rear not front."       Did you take a picture of this self-experiment ???

No human can ever mimic a dog in the way it moves. Too many differences including the obvious - humans walk erect, dogs on all fours; humans have a scapula, dogs do not. The best we can do to mimic a dog is to try to run keeping our feet held apart at the same distance. It doesn't work too well, we will converge and  eventually our feet will fall under us in a single line.That supports the assumption that dogs will single track as speed increases. Otherwise, it ain't apples to apples ever  since we stopped growing tails .

I think all mammals have a Scapula. I think....

Let me try
Fastest Human - Runs like a Dog
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7aiHrk0us1I

This is the fastest Time. Guinness World Record holder.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3rcWarJOe0

I think everything exists now... You do a search and all these things pop up.

Dogs with no back legs (100 % front power)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaM-xXgl4Bs

Dogs with no front legs (100% rear power)
Faith, two legged dog (On the Oprah Show)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7f1ovurzU2s

 

Faith has the steepest croup, but she has a great job.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=emiZpSuz-eA

Dominic, Two Legged Dog (lost both right limbs after car accident)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXPJJeISuXo

Crap, dogs don't have collar bones/clavicals. Of course they have a scapula.....duh.

You are right!
and dolphins / Marine mammals do 

Dolphin Skeleton » Parker Manatee Aquarium Gallery

I was confused  again.....

Don't worry Blitzen, happens all the time!   

I am just glad it is straightened out now ... LOL  

... like just before, I swear I saw some swears from vk4, but now they aren't where I swear I thought they were. Makes me want to eat more blueberries.

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article/your-brain-on-blueberries/

Ibrahim & Blitzen,

I have made this mistake, with listing CH (US & CAN) Elch vom Haus Obert (More pictures added today in the gallery) as an American Line, actually he was an Import just like SG CH (US) Harry von Bollscheid.  At that time the croups and topline were different in the imports. These dogs below were available at stud in the USA at the same time. Greif vom Elfenhain was also a VA, under Dr Funk, of all people. To me Greif has borderline "Alsation type" looks. There were some super nice looking dogs back then. The USA got used to these, dogs, and in time this type stopped happening. Look at the backs/toplines, both these dogs SchH in Germany &  CH in the USA, one also VA. There are many more, but I have to stop at some point.

CH (US) Gauner vom Schnapp

VA, CH. ROM (US) Greif vom Elfenhain