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Adam Davidson:  There are about 15 Major ports in the US.A.   Each is divided into a handful of separately operated terminals.  That makes roughly 100 terminals.  SSA Marine is the single biggest US-owned terminal operator. 

Bud Waters:  We operate seven of those terminals.

Davidson:  Bud Waters is SSA Vice President.  And let me repeat what he just said.  The biggest US-owned terminal operator manages seven terminals.  The next biggest?  That's Maher Terminals in Elizabeth, NJ -- they manage one terminal.  Waters says about a dozen are managed by city or state governments. 

Waters:  Other than that, the rest of the terminals, which comprises about 80% of those terminals we're talking about, are operated by Foreign entities, primarily shipping lines. 

Davidson:  So -- US companies have 8!  Foreign companies have 80!  Companies managing US terminals are all over the world -- in China, Denmark, Singapore, South Korea.  Could SSA Marine, the nation's biggest terminal manager, take over a significant number of those foreign-managed ports?

Waters: [laughing]  Well, it'd be an interesting challenge!

Davidson:  It wouldn't be a challenge, says Peter Tirschwell, publisher of the Journal of Commerce.  It would be nearly impossible.

Peter Tirschwell:  It would be an extraordinary upheaval, so large that it would be difficult to even contemplate it.

Davidson:  Imagine that Congress does mandate that only US companies can operate terminals in US ports, Tirschwell says.  There would be two options and neither is good.  The first is for the handful of existing US companies to take over all foreign-owned terminals.  That, he says, is simply inconceivable.  These companies would have to instantly grow to ten times their current size.  The other option is for US companies in other industries to start offering terminal operation services.  That's equally hard to imagine, Tirschwell says.

NewsMax.com Staff

80% of U.S. Ports Already Foreign-Owned

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Most of the terminals at America's major ports are already foreign-owned, according to a senior official with the largest U.S.-owned ports operator, SSA Marine.

In an interview with National Public Radio on Sunday, SSA Vice President Bob Waters explained that there are 15 major ports in the U.S., comprising about 100 terminals.

We operate seven of those terminals," he said, adding that the next biggest American ports operator, Maher Terminals, manages one terminal.

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Ugly, thanks for the heads up.  I know that VP elect Senator Joe Biden has told several crowds that a major world crisis brewing and will erupt soon after the new adminsitration takes over as a test.  He also claimed that the new administration will have to institute some difficult things that will be hard for the people to accept, and will be asking everyone to give them support through the difficulties involved.

Some think that there will be a major attack against Iran which will set off a limited nuclear exchange in the middle east, Pakistan, India, and Syria and even perhaps start WWIII.   Whenever any country's economy shifts into a weimar style monetyary situation, war usually results.  Our monetary base has gone from 875 billion to 1275 billion in the last 90 days according to the Federal Reserve Bank of St. Louis (listed under it's section of U.S. Financial Data as updated 11-13-08).

For those of you who have any faith, please pray that God will help us all through this in one piece and keep us all safe from harm, in the coming months.  Ugly, please PM me if you get any more heads up info.  Thanks.

if they drop the nuke it doesn't much matter after that.if the economy takes a bigger nose dive .we are armed heavily in our private sector .we can hunt ,garden and spear some for the neighbors .i know our little community is very heavily armed and well stocked.most inner cities have some very good gangbangers that will not quit.and don't forget i had a chat with MR.LIDDY so i know whats up.and whats not!

December 2006 http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53350 

THE NEW WORLD DISORDER  

Analysts: Dollar collapse would result in 'amero'

Think deep recession likely regardless of Fed's actions

April 2007 http://www.wisebread.com/europe-has-the-euro-are-you-ready-for-the-amero  "Unless, of course, the ultimate goal is to create “corporatism” – the merger of big business with big government "  As Tom DeWeese wrote in his article for the American Policy Center, “The SPP is not about free trade. Its use of public/private partnerships creates an elite of certain, chosen global corporations which basically become part of government at the expense of their competition and our national independence.”
 

January 2008 http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=7854  In discussing the issue of sovereignty related to a monetary union, Grubel stated that he thinks that, “sovereignty is not infinitely valuable. The merit of giving up some aspects of sovereignty should be determined by the gains brought by such a sacrifice.”

October 2008 http://www.opednews.com/articles/BANKERS-SAY-Learn-to-Love-by-Patrick-Henningsen-081006-534.html But if you had a bird’s eye view of events since 2000, then you will have seen a lot more than that- you will have witnessed the devaluation of the US Dollar by nearly 70%. During this period, the Federal Reserve Bank repeatedly printed large sums of money and pumped it into the system, further devaluing our nation's Fiat currency beyond recognition......America could soon gain painful first experience- the same pain it has often induced in countries like Argentina, Mexico, Germany and Brazil... hyper-inflation. As a part of a 'relief package', the “Amero”- the ultimate financial instrument, will be presented as a pre-packaged panacea or 'rescue' by our saviours- the bankers. ...As we've seen recently, foreign interests will continue to scoop up both state and private assets, all at rock bottom prices. .... Millions of remaining jobs will scatter with the four winds.  - BE SURE TO READ ALL THREE PAGES AND CONSIDER USING THEIR automated response system to government and the media

This is what mindless deficit spending has done to this country. Yes, let us keep up the mantra of cutting taxes while at the same time increasing spending and fighting a war with borrowed money - resulting in our national debt doubling from $5.7 trillion to over $11 trillion since Bush took office in 2001.

The US is now begging Arab countries for $300 billion and asking Kuwait to forgive our debt - yep, those same Muslim countries we love to demonize. Note that the report calls it "financial aid" which presumably means that we don't intend paying it back.

"The United States has asked four oil-rich Gulf states for close to 300 billion dollars to help it curb the global financial meltdown, Kuwait's daily Al-Seyassah reported Thursday.

Quoting "highly informed" sources, the daily said Washington has asked Saudi Arabia for 120 billion dollars, the United Arab Emirates for 70 billion dollars, Qatar for 60 billion dollars and was seeking 40 billion dollars from Kuwait.

Al-Seyassah said Washington sought the amount as "financial aid" to face the fallout of the financial crisis and help prevent its economy from sliding into a painful recession.

The daily said the United States plans to use the funds to help the ailing automobile industry , banks and other companies suffering from the global financial turmoil.

The four nations, all members of OPEC, produce together 14 million barrels of oil per day, around half of the cartel's production and about 17 percent of world supplies.

The four states are estimated to have amassed close to 1.5 trillion dollars in surplus in the past six years due to high oil prices that rocketed above 147 dollars in July before sliding to just above 50 dollars.

The daily also said that the United States has asked Kuwait to forgive its Iraqi debt estimated at around 16 billion dollars."

news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20081120/bs_afp/financeeconomyusgulf_081120072928

Peter Schiff called it from the beginning, watch

http://jp.youtube.com/watch?v=Mlo8uvlwQeQ 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2I0QN-FYkpw&eurl=http://www.wikio.com/video/598240

Ugly, one has to be so careful when dealing with your facts. You made the statement about Chinese being able to build production manufacturing facilities in the US, and now you acknowledge that none exist. While it is literally true that if they followed our laws they would be able to do so, the point was already moot, because it makes no sense for them. 

China and other foreign interests do not own our ports, they lease terminals. It would seem while we have a set number of ports, there can be many terminals at these ports. I see this as a big difference, like owning a home vs. a condo. Since China is exporting their goods to us, makes sense they might want control of a terminal, and I am guessing that as lease holders, they assume the risks for doing so. Same with Arab countries too, they deliver oil to our ports and being in the terminal business probably fits their economic plans well, too. I claim no expertise, just doing my own thinking out loud, here.

Another thought, I wouldn't call the Chinese "godless", but rather their government. 

So, IMHO, it is most likely, none of this is as scary as you make it seem. 

Also, I read today:

The auto companies have until Dec. 2 to come up with a "viable" plan. I checked out the electric EV-1 story, which you provided links to Wikepedia, and again, the cars were recalled due to faulty NiMetalHydride battery technologies. That the whole program was scrapped was the big mistake, because the powers to be lacked vision for the future of the industry. They SHOULD have embraced new technologies, sooner, and because they didn't, they certainly shouldn't be rewarded. If Detroit can't build the cars we want and need, they shouldn't be in business. 

(I am looking at the new Ford Flex, to buy, and like it a lot, except why isn't it available as a hybrid? I have to go to Toyota Highlander or a Lexus, for that, )

We need new industry, to provide skilled jobs, through Green technologies, I'd rather we spent our money on that. 

good for you beetree uglydog always puts a negative spin on things it's his own spin.i think he's a hate monger.

Like standing in the soup line wearing top hat and tail's....LOL

Thats the one thing that stood out in my mind, a comment made by one of the news program's.

This bail out plan was total bullshit from the very beginning.  The rich protecting the rich.

Someone should be going to jail.

Someone should post these peoples address's and put a bounty on their left ear's.    Like they did to coyote's at one time.

We still have coyote's but they use the right ear and listen better.

FUBAR.