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by CrysBuck25 on 06 September 2009 - 02:09
Hi GTR...
I just have a question. Is the accident real, or is that fake? You continually find ways to be insulting and rude, and have plenty to say, but then if someone calls into question your logic, you fall back and say that you have a very high IQ, but were injured in one or more accidents, resulting in disability.
You are entitled to post whatever you want, wherever you want, of course, as you so articulately pointed out above, but if you do not train dogs, or own them, or breed them, then I wonder how you can comment on Sitasmom and what you mistakenly believe to be her preferences in breeding a dog every heat.
She asked a simple question. There's no need to attack her. The only reason you are doing so is because you disagree with her political views, and so figure that it is okay to attack her on everything, because if she is considering it, it must be wrong.
And pro-socialists have the gall to call conservatives intolerant? I'd have to say, look in the mirror. They suffer from it, too!
Crys
I just have a question. Is the accident real, or is that fake? You continually find ways to be insulting and rude, and have plenty to say, but then if someone calls into question your logic, you fall back and say that you have a very high IQ, but were injured in one or more accidents, resulting in disability.
You are entitled to post whatever you want, wherever you want, of course, as you so articulately pointed out above, but if you do not train dogs, or own them, or breed them, then I wonder how you can comment on Sitasmom and what you mistakenly believe to be her preferences in breeding a dog every heat.
She asked a simple question. There's no need to attack her. The only reason you are doing so is because you disagree with her political views, and so figure that it is okay to attack her on everything, because if she is considering it, it must be wrong.
And pro-socialists have the gall to call conservatives intolerant? I'd have to say, look in the mirror. They suffer from it, too!
Crys
by George the Retard on 06 September 2009 - 03:09
Crys,
yes the accidents are real. the last one i am lucky to have survived.
she can buy whatever dog she wants. i would probably never breed her again but that is me.
no the comment about breeding every heat cycle was to hans.
i attacked her how? she is the one calling names and attacking me cause i questioned hans. which by the way hans and i said peace so peace it is.
what i mostly disagree with sitasmom on is ot political post after ot political post. an ot post every so often is not bad but their for a while it was constant. why here crys?
i never said sitasmom would breed every cycle. what i said was this: like sitasmom, i find that very hard to believe. this was in response to maggy may. maybe you are miss reading cause of the way i write. oh well i cant get back what i lost.
i do not believe sitasmom would breed every cycle. pretty sure most people would see the advantages of breeding 2 cycles and resting 1 or breeding 1 resting 1. do you think eurosport bred her every heat cycle i highly doubt it she has an A stamp so that is done at 1 probably bred shortly their after and then every other heat cycle. if you do the math it works out. IMO
if i went after anyone in all this it was maggy may june and july. she knows why and i will leave it at that.
the no dog thing was me being a smartass, i would not be here if i did not have a dog.
so we all have dogs, now can we stick to talking dogs after all it is the theme of this site.
have a great day
GTR
yes the accidents are real. the last one i am lucky to have survived.
she can buy whatever dog she wants. i would probably never breed her again but that is me.
no the comment about breeding every heat cycle was to hans.
i attacked her how? she is the one calling names and attacking me cause i questioned hans. which by the way hans and i said peace so peace it is.
what i mostly disagree with sitasmom on is ot political post after ot political post. an ot post every so often is not bad but their for a while it was constant. why here crys?
i never said sitasmom would breed every cycle. what i said was this: like sitasmom, i find that very hard to believe. this was in response to maggy may. maybe you are miss reading cause of the way i write. oh well i cant get back what i lost.
i do not believe sitasmom would breed every cycle. pretty sure most people would see the advantages of breeding 2 cycles and resting 1 or breeding 1 resting 1. do you think eurosport bred her every heat cycle i highly doubt it she has an A stamp so that is done at 1 probably bred shortly their after and then every other heat cycle. if you do the math it works out. IMO
if i went after anyone in all this it was maggy may june and july. she knows why and i will leave it at that.
the no dog thing was me being a smartass, i would not be here if i did not have a dog.
so we all have dogs, now can we stick to talking dogs after all it is the theme of this site.
have a great day
GTR
by CrysBuck25 on 06 September 2009 - 05:09
GTR....
If I misunderstood you, I do apologize.
It seems to me that the dog has been bred a lot for being only six years old, but if she is a great one, I guess I could see it. Nevertheless, as for having pups that often, yes, humans having babies every year is hard on us, sleepless nights, clean ups, all that, but think of it this way...
Puppies are all done with the bitch by eight weeks, but we humans are not so lucky...Our babies have to be fed by us far longer, and they don't even start to housetrain until two years old!
Crys
by MaggieMae on 06 September 2009 - 05:09
It is atypical for someone who has had a near death experience to not have a changed perspective on life....like "not sweating the small stuff".....like "not getting all bent out of shape" ....like "not being nasty" to another Poster who starts some OT's. Well, I guess it takes all kinds......I'm just sayin
by crhuerta on 06 September 2009 - 17:09
Sitasmom,
My personal opinion is....to breed a female every heat cycle is not healthy.
The uterus takes a beating every time it is required to produce life.
The scar tissue, not to mention the hormones, takes a toll on the female.
"Birth" is a very natural thing of course......but the "body" needs time to "heal" after.
I think every time a breeder subjects their female to whelping, they must consider a resting time between....for the sake of the physical & mental health of the female.
JMO
Robin
My personal opinion is....to breed a female every heat cycle is not healthy.
The uterus takes a beating every time it is required to produce life.
The scar tissue, not to mention the hormones, takes a toll on the female.
"Birth" is a very natural thing of course......but the "body" needs time to "heal" after.
I think every time a breeder subjects their female to whelping, they must consider a resting time between....for the sake of the physical & mental health of the female.
JMO
Robin
by SitasMom on 06 September 2009 - 19:09
GUYS!
I have not, even once, said what I planned to do with this female except to title her in SchH 1 thru 3.
I have not even said what the dogs name is.........
Nore have I said whether I bought a dog at all.............
Hypothetical question.......
How much would you pay for a almost 6 year old VA-2, IPO3, VVS3 Show line bitch with excellent hips and elbows that is due to whelp from a V rated, VV2, IPO2 Slovak police dog that also has excellent hips and elbows?
Bitch reproduces in both looks and drive.
Both dogs are extreme working show line dogs.......and have consistently placed better then working dogs.
thinking about buying.........maybe...........sort of.............not sure...........
1. What is your definition of Working" - SchH3 - regional level places very high
2. What is your definition of "Extreme" - "extreme working dive" and not extreme angulation......
3. Have you seen the dogs work off field or our you judging there "Workability" on trial results.Yes, and videos. I've seen Zaira........she is extreme working show dog.
4. Has she been bred before(how many times) and what has she produced? She's have 7 litters, last was 7 puppies.
Who were the males she was bred to? She has produced many winners.......top males.......have to get back on the names.
5. What are your plans for (I assume to continue breeding) her. Plan title her in SchH and breed her, let her retire as a couch potato in a few years. She is also a likeable dog.
6. What lines are you going to continue to breed her to? - more show lines that compete with working dog lines of course, maybe Zaira's son.
OK, I've found-
Senon v. Noort
Bazi v.d. Urbecke
Dux de Cuatro Flores
Pakros d' Ulmental
Looks like she's had 5 litters so far.......
Yes I've talked to the seller............this dog is sound, healthy and still very, very active. She is worked many times a week. She is good with other dogs and with cats too. She is completely trustworthy when it comes to taking her out and about. She has a great personality and bonds well to her people.
This dog would be experienced in the world of trials, and without a SchH title..(she has VVS and IPO).....What is the value of such a dog as far as teaching a noobe the ins and outs of training, handling and trialing a quality dog?
A noobe trying to train up and show a green dog is oh so diffucult...neither one of us know what the heck is going on.....
OH my and to do well at the trials, just might be fun!
As I see it, the puppies defray the cost of the bitch and after that she will be my teacher.
Maybe I'm all wrong, maybe not
.
I have not, even once, said what I planned to do with this female except to title her in SchH 1 thru 3.
I have not even said what the dogs name is.........
Nore have I said whether I bought a dog at all.............
Hypothetical question.......
How much would you pay for a almost 6 year old VA-2, IPO3, VVS3 Show line bitch with excellent hips and elbows that is due to whelp from a V rated, VV2, IPO2 Slovak police dog that also has excellent hips and elbows?
Bitch reproduces in both looks and drive.
Both dogs are extreme working show line dogs.......and have consistently placed better then working dogs.
thinking about buying.........maybe...........sort of.............not sure...........
1. What is your definition of Working" - SchH3 - regional level places very high
2. What is your definition of "Extreme" - "extreme working dive" and not extreme angulation......
3. Have you seen the dogs work off field or our you judging there "Workability" on trial results.Yes, and videos. I've seen Zaira........she is extreme working show dog.
4. Has she been bred before(how many times) and what has she produced? She's have 7 litters, last was 7 puppies.
Who were the males she was bred to? She has produced many winners.......top males.......have to get back on the names.
5. What are your plans for (I assume to continue breeding) her. Plan title her in SchH and breed her, let her retire as a couch potato in a few years. She is also a likeable dog.
6. What lines are you going to continue to breed her to? - more show lines that compete with working dog lines of course, maybe Zaira's son.
OK, I've found-
Senon v. Noort
Bazi v.d. Urbecke
Dux de Cuatro Flores
Pakros d' Ulmental
Looks like she's had 5 litters so far.......
Yes I've talked to the seller............this dog is sound, healthy and still very, very active. She is worked many times a week. She is good with other dogs and with cats too. She is completely trustworthy when it comes to taking her out and about. She has a great personality and bonds well to her people.
This dog would be experienced in the world of trials, and without a SchH title..(she has VVS and IPO).....What is the value of such a dog as far as teaching a noobe the ins and outs of training, handling and trialing a quality dog?
A noobe trying to train up and show a green dog is oh so diffucult...neither one of us know what the heck is going on.....
OH my and to do well at the trials, just might be fun!
As I see it, the puppies defray the cost of the bitch and after that she will be my teacher.
Maybe I'm all wrong, maybe not
.
by Slamdunc on 06 September 2009 - 21:09
I have not, even once, said what I planned to do with this female except to title her in SchH 1 thru 3.
What are your plans for (I assume to continue breeding) her. Plan title her in SchH and breed her, let her retire as a couch potato in a few years. She is also a likeable dog.
Well, you said you would title her..SchH1 thru 3....she's already titled....She is a IPO 3. You also said you would breed her. Sounds like a plan to me. ...Oh, and retire her as a couch potatoe at 9 or 10, when you finish titling her and breeding her? Maybe, since you plan on titling a titled dog, why don't you start with the BH on her? Just a thought.
Then you can call her HOT (Handler Owner trained). I'm glad she is a likeable dog!
Jim
What are your plans for (I assume to continue breeding) her. Plan title her in SchH and breed her, let her retire as a couch potato in a few years. She is also a likeable dog.
Well, you said you would title her..SchH1 thru 3....she's already titled....She is a IPO 3. You also said you would breed her. Sounds like a plan to me. ...Oh, and retire her as a couch potatoe at 9 or 10, when you finish titling her and breeding her? Maybe, since you plan on titling a titled dog, why don't you start with the BH on her? Just a thought.
Then you can call her HOT (Handler Owner trained). I'm glad she is a likeable dog!
Jim
by SitasMom on 06 September 2009 - 22:09
IPO and VVS both require a BH just as SchH therefor she already has a BH........
HOT wouldn't be "right" if this dod has already been trained would it?
"I would assume" - if this dog existed and I were to purchase her.
by mking on 07 September 2009 - 03:09
Sitasmom, Sounds to me like this dog has done more than enough breeding and should be able to live out her life as someones couch potatoe. Do you read what you write?? Your comments below from a post above makes you sound like a backyard puppy mill! If you seriously think that you will make money on puppies you are doing something wrong. You may break even at best. So the dog would need to have a litter for you to make money off of for you to value her companionship????????? Sick.
All - When did it become a bad thing to make money? Have we become such a socialist nation that money is bad? Last time I checked it takes money to live..............
"As I see it, the puppies defray the cost of the bitch and after that she will be my teacher. "
All - When did it become a bad thing to make money? Have we become such a socialist nation that money is bad? Last time I checked it takes money to live..............
"As I see it, the puppies defray the cost of the bitch and after that she will be my teacher. "
by Prager on 07 September 2009 - 17:09
I guess I have started all this breeding "every heat" THING. PLEASE REREAD WHAT I HAVE ACTUALLY SAID IN THE 1 st POST ABOVE. Read my first post here and then the other if you want. I am not saying that you should do it. Do what ever you want! I am just presenting other opinions. That does not mean that anybody is "sick", "greedy", "puppy mill" what ever. Just reread what I have said up there.
People screaming here on each other like lunatics. Can we have a civilized discussion?
And another thing why does it bother you if one topic R.I.P. is political. After all it sais "GENERAL TOPIC". And if you do not like the topic my suggestion is, guess what, that you do not read it. NOW THERE IS NOVEL IDEA!!!!
Prager (Hans)
People screaming here on each other like lunatics. Can we have a civilized discussion?
And another thing why does it bother you if one topic R.I.P. is political. After all it sais "GENERAL TOPIC". And if you do not like the topic my suggestion is, guess what, that you do not read it. NOW THERE IS NOVEL IDEA!!!!
Prager (Hans)
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