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by hodie on 26 March 2010 - 22:03

In one of the courses I teach, ethical issues are often presented. I am constantly amazed and appalled at the answers the students provide. They do not have any sense of right and wrong or ethical behavior. It is no wonder, having grown up with the likes of people at ENRON, AIG, Maddoff and others. It is all about the students, and whatever they can get out of a situation.

Mystere

by Mystere on 26 March 2010 - 23:03

Hodie,


Sorry, but I must disagree a bit.   I attended post-graduate school with some of the worst miscreants I ever met (until meeting some of the schmucks in schutzhund).  The first writing assignment  during the first 2 weeks was for NO CREDIT, and consisted of such things as  finding the authority for the number of justices on the Supreme Court, or reading a Law Review article in order to answer simple questions about the contents.  The miscreants in that school actually razored out the pages of Law Review volumes,and stole (hid) books, etc. , so no one else could get the answer!!!  This was for a NO CREDIT assignment!!!    I recall actually wondering whether  they would resort to actually killing the competition at exam time.   I was shocked and appalled at the pit-vipers I found myself boxed in with for three years. Admittedly, there were only a few of these miscreants, but their antics colored the entire experience, not to mention creating a very tense atmosphere. 

  We have always had such schmucks among us, but, as Moons and others have pointed out, they were not
tolerated, as they seem to be today.   People were held accountable for their actions.   Families had some control over members' behaviors.   The old lady on the corner knew who you were, who your parents were, and knew their telephone number.  She would call them and report your shenanigans in a New York minute.  Even schmucks refrained from bad behavior, because they didn't want to have to face  daddy, or mama, or granma, because they all had "The Belt," and knew how to use it.   As much as the physical punishment, we didn't want to have the embarassment, or embarassment to our families.  These kids today have no shame.

 Granted,  back in the day, the kid who had the cards stacked against him/her from day one was cut some slack, BUT, no one said, "poor abused thing.  You never had a chance, so we absolve you of your heinous crimes."   Those folks were either forced to get the mental health care they needed....or forced to join the Army to avoid jail.  Either way, they ended up with and learning  some discipline, and learned that there were "repercussions and consequences" for their actions.   There was no "Twinkie Defense,"  "PMS Defense," or "Black Rage Defense" when we were growing up.   

People had a greater sense of a responsibility for themselves and to their community than the kids coming up today.   I don't think many of them can even spell the word "loyalty,"  without DragonSpeak to do it for them.


by hodie on 27 March 2010 - 00:03

 Mystere,

I apparently miss the point you are trying to make saying you disagree.  I think we are saying the same thing, although with different audiences from which we draw our conclusions. Bear in mind too that I teach all ages of students. I could not agree more with you about responsibility etc. Sorry I am so dense.....Can you provide a clarification?

by crhuerta on 27 March 2010 - 01:03

DODGEBALL!!!!!!!!!
Pinball Machines...
Fast pitching  (in the school yards)
Softball games.....

Oh...I can't forget...staying clear of the drug dealers, gang members & hood rats...Let's not forget "drive bys".....that ALWAYS made for an exciting day!!
Chicago kid......North Ave & California Ave area ......Humboldt Park....not so great at that time for yesterday's youth.
BUT... DODGEBALL!!!!   WOW! LOVED IT!
Robin

VonIsengard

by VonIsengard on 27 March 2010 - 01:03

I read books. LOTS of them!

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 27 March 2010 - 01:03

Now that I think about it, I can't believe how far we would (edit) ride the horses and our parents never knew. lol
Although I'm sure they figured it out after all the endurance wins. LMAO

I never realized it till lately with all my travels to the city .. all the developments, buildings, just landscape in general.

It's about 30 miles to the city and 40 miles to the closest municiple building ... most the stuff inbetween was never there when I was a kid. And we went well beyond that with our horses.

I believe George Washington did do that ride in 6 hours back in the day !!!   LMAO 

YeeeeeHaaaaaaaaa  

by angusmom on 27 March 2010 - 02:03

oh i remember pollywogs too! i had to buy polly wogs for my son; one grew pretty big - his name was EEB.  fun to watch them grow, altho it was more of a kick to catch em first. i remember in 6th grade, if you got caught yakking, our teacher taped your mouth shut. if you were a "wanderer" you got taped into your desk. NO BODY got their panties in a bunch over it! all of us got it at least once (sort of a badge of honor lol). for 2 of the 3 years i was in junior hi, my dad was the vice principal. no one ever complained about "self esteem" or "abuse". they still had a paddle in the office. we had alot of freedom, along with the responsibility that should come with it. but, even tho i had alot of "freedom of expression" in high school, i don't think i would have been able to get away with the term paper topic my son picked for his english class - cannibalism in our society. he recently got the highest benchmark in the school in english, so his (very proper, conservative) teacher loves him, but she doesn't understand him very much lol. considering my favorite handmade cards are about insane rabid squirrels (that was a valentines card) and one with a battle between snowmen (one side was made of yellow snow - that was christmas), cannibalism in modern day society doesnt seem so weird. i'm just grateful that his teacher is willing to go with it. he doesn't fit into a box very well. my best teachers were the ones who didn't believe in "boxes" either. he just told me tonight that he's interested in blacksmithing!!! i live in suburban southern california! time for research i guess.... at least it's not a video game.
when i was in high school, we were able to take a number of different classes to "try out" a subject. most kids don't know what they want to be when they "grow up". we were able to weed out or enjoy things without a committment. now, my son had to choose his path thru high school - no deviations. they choose in 9th grade and they have to stick with it all the way til they graduate. i hate it. he plays electric and acoustic guitar, but, because he chose, film-making/animation, he cannot take a music class.  so, even in school, we had more freedom of choice "back in the day".

BabyEagle4U

by BabyEagle4U on 27 March 2010 - 02:03

What I don't understand about my highschool now is, why mandatory 2 years French or German or Russian, when everyone now adays is Spanish ? I never met a Russian around here.

I knew that saying, the Russians are comin the Russians are comin was a farse.

habanaro

by habanaro on 27 March 2010 - 03:03

I always enjoyed taking quarters to the mall with industrial construction adhesive... Glueing them down  then covering with somthing to let cure.  Then grab a seat and watch all the people try to pick them up

I also used to enjoy throwing hostess cupcakes at people ...they are about the size of a baseball and are kinda like a creme filled chocolate water balloon..

When I was really little I would walk around auctions yelling Hep!!!! Heyyyyy!!!! Yesssssssss!!!

Yep when I grew up I wanted to be just like Gomez Adams




by angusmom on 27 March 2010 - 03:03

at my sons school in socal, they can choose, mandarin, spanish or french. altho i love the french language (mostly the sound, cuz i don't speak any), i don't really understand why it is offered. we have a huge asian population and the chinese mostly speak mandarin (taiwanese). so it is a good choice, but they allow mandarin speaking kids to take the class (easy A) and that doesn't make sense to me. nor would spanish for a spanish speaker.  altho my husband spoke spanish as his first language, he never taught it to any of his 5 kids. my son is in his 3rd year of spanish and it will probably come in handy. we do go to mexico fairly often. i tried to teach him some spanish and german, but, i don't think it was terribly effective. when i was a kid, we could choose spanish or french. i chose spanish, but my oldest sis chose french (more romantic i guess). she can speak a fair amount of french and spanish. my spanish gets better the longer i hear it around me. well, with the russian, you never know, maybe we'll be doing more business with them....?





 


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