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by Uglydog on 21 July 2009 - 15:07

Iraq has NO Navy, Nor does Afganistan.

They cannot in any way harm America. 
Iraq had no WMDs-Conclusionary White House report, and had no ties to 911.
 

Raymond, you also fought for a Lie. 
The Gulf of Tonkin 'incident' Never happened.   We know now, through the FOIA, Freedom Of Info Act, that is was a Fabricated Lie.  It was a supposed attack that never happened.
X Navy Seal Jesse Ventura is also furious about this.  It was just released a few years ago. 58,000 Americans dead for a Lie.  Million of Vietnamese Dead. Cambodians Dead.  For Kissinger, McNamara, Bankers and Military Contractors.
Soldiers are Dupes. Wake up, you are pawns.


by Uglydog on 21 July 2009 - 15:07


 

H1, H2, H3 are multi Billion Dollar, Permanent US bases there to guard the Oil.
http://judicial-inc.biz/85war_for_israel.htm 


Oil FOR Israel.
Democracy, Freedom!


by keepthefaith on 21 July 2009 - 16:07

Raymond, I never thought the day would come when I would agree with you but you are absolutely right about one thing:

The war in Iraq was about OIL - anyone who thinks otherwise is absolutely naive. The reason we will keep a military presence in Iraq and Afghanistan - no matter who is president - is because of oil. In the latter case it is the pipelines from the Caspian.

The war in Afghanistan is unwinnable. No country has EVER been victorious against the them. They are ferocious fighters and they have the advantage of terrain to wage a war of attrition against any one who attacks them and they have Pakistan whose intelligence service, the ISI, is sympathetic to them as are a lot of the rank and file in the Pakistani armed forces.

Guess who we are allied with in this war on terror? Yep, Pakistan!!

Jessie James

by Jessie James on 21 July 2009 - 16:07

"The Pentagon was NOT hit by a plane, WTC #7 was brought down by Explosives, and the Media in America is controlled."


Tell that to the families who lost loved ones on those planes. Tell that to the Police and Firefighters who where trying to evacuate the WTC's when the 2nd tower was hit. Tell that to the kids who don't have parents anymore because they were killed when the buildings collapsed. If planes didn't bring down the WTC's hit the Pentagon and crash in the Pa field and it was explosives then who set them off?

MaggieMae

by MaggieMae on 21 July 2009 - 16:07


JJ -- Uglydog and Raymond are delusional.   You cannot make them see reason.   Best to ignore them. 

steve1

by steve1 on 21 July 2009 - 18:07

No one who has fought for his country ever boasts about it saying they are keeping peoples asses safe Raymond, It is a thing one does not talk about, with me not even my family know excatly what went on for i have never talked about what went on it to anyone living other than friends who were with me at the time a lot gone, Its nothing to boast about, a great shame it had to happen i would rather have been without it, for it has lived with me for many years and always will, i guess until i die
Steve

Jessie James

by Jessie James on 21 July 2009 - 18:07

Steve Thank You for your service. I agree with you 100%  No soldier boasts about keeping peoples asses safe. Theres many things Raymond is saying that leads me to believe he never served.  I'm sorry you have to live with horrible memories but i'm extremely grateful for you doing what needed to be done.

sueincc

by sueincc on 21 July 2009 - 18:07

I agree, JesseJames, but his  posts have made me wonder from time to time,  if perhaps he suffered a bullet to the brain somewhere along the line.

by jaggirl47 on 21 July 2009 - 19:07

Raymond, Raymond, Raymond.....WOW.  Do you not know how to read?  I am now a nurse.  I wasn't when I was in Iraq.  I reenlisted for nursing during my deployment so I can gain more medical experience to better help my fellow brothers and sisters in arms.  Am I in Iraq now?  No.  Does that mean I am not doing my part for the guys here that were blown up?  I am doing my part, just not at the front where I was.

Second thing, while you were in Vietnam fighting, so was my father and stepfather.  You weren't there by yourself.  As a matter of fact, at least one member of my family has served in the military during every conflict that this country has ever had.  All the way back to the American Revolution.

Third, Jaggirl does not mean Judge Advocate General.  Jag is for the Jaguars, as in the Jacksonville Jaguars you dolt.  I am a football fan and I love my team.

Fourth, you don't know what's going on over there.  You have no idea how it feels to go into a clinic that was torn apart and ransacked by Saddam's people and building it up and getting the medical supplies and helping the ONE doctor of that region to be able to see up to 300 patients a day at that clinic and the surrounding areas.

Fifth, watch the videos of the WTC's going down.  Once the heat got too high, the buildings collapsed from where the planes crashed.  Also, am I the only one who was watching the news after the first plane hit and watched the second one go into the other building?  It showed it plain as day with live footage.

Sixth, if you are a true vet as you "say" you are, then that's really nice showing the kind of disrespect that you have shown myself and my family.  Including my Uncle, the one you called a moron or a liar.  Some respect to show someone who is a veteran of Desert Storm and also served during Somalia and Bosnia.

You want to take any shots on my Grandfather too?  He was a POW who was at Normandy and the Battle of the Bulge (where he was blown up and almost died in a POW camp), or was all of that some conspiracy too?


by Uglydog on 21 July 2009 - 20:07


Tell that to the families who lost loved ones on those planes.
Tell that to the Police and Firefighters who where trying to evacuate the WTC's when the 2nd tower was hit.
Tell that to the kids who don't have parents anymore because they were killed when the buildings collapsed.
Gladly, Many families already KNOW and demand a New 911 Commission. See Headline Report.
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07142009/news/regionalnews/kin_eye_9_11_panel_179145.htm 


If planes didn't bring down the WTC's, hit the Pentagon, and crash in the Pa field and it was explosives, then who set them off?  
Israeli Mossad & CIA.  
WTC was rewired (with explosives in 1993 after the first attack, in my estimation.)
Pentagon-Missile likely, according to the Head of All US intelligence, General Stubbelbine.
PA-Plane was shot down by the US government, traitors running it.


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Israeli minister, Joseph Paritzky, to Reopen MosuI Iraq-Haifa Israel Oil pipeline
Israeli Haaretz, 4/1/03
TEL AVIV (AFP) Israeli Infrastructure Minister Joseph Paritzky wants to reopen the pipeline leading from the Iraqi city of Mosul  Iraq to the Israeli port of Haifa after the end of the US-led war in Iraq, daily Haaretz said Monday.
Haaretz said Paritzky hoped the large Haifa refineries could be supplied with Iraqi oil.
He was convinced the US administration would favour the idea, Haaretz said.





 


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