Impeding a Club Trial - Page 9

cont keep this in mind...things look great from a distance but the closer you get to something the more imperfections and flaws you will be able to see..see if you get my point as smart as you are unlike the alabama rednecks...or is your character such as this would not be a concern!

Marlene

Bama... I did not mention you in my previous post, as it was concerning more about the comments directed towards others. I heard about the situation you are refering to and as far as I am concerned I would expect nothing less from a breeder than what you listed you did.

As I stated in my previous post, everyone has a different side to the story and a different spin. Even video's can be decieving if you don't know all the facts leading up to, including, and after. Even camera angles can be decieving.

Thank you mewoodir, Yes a breeder is responsible for what they produce and if one does not work have a obligation to take it back for whatever reason. All dogs are not sport dogs from any dog and we did what was above and beyond our contract.

Like I said I was not there and have no first hand eye witness of the event above but if it was as stated by others then it should be addressed properly. No one including myself likes to see people of this talent and knowledge fall to this type of antics in the sport  it is a waste and a bad impression for new people to witness.  There are always more than one side of any thing I just hope it ends with some fairness and is not stuffed under.  

I have known Eric for about twenty years now as he and I both belonged to the Jefferson Schutzhund Club together and I came with dogs in the start of zero ability , coupled with my lack of handler skills and was trying to work them and he was always  one of the members who was willing to help me. That is character to me and I am happy for his success he deserves it and has worked hard for it.

Marlene .

Wow! Unsportsman like is an understatement.  There is a certain level of maturity and self control that one should have in public.  As stated before,  there are other ways that this situation should have been handled.  I'm really dissappointed at the behavior of one of the well known names in the sport.  How do you do this at a santioned trial?  How do you do this in front of a foreign judge?  What does this say of this mans character and judgement.  If this is not appropriate addressed by the BOI it does not say much for our organization.  If this is not handled fairly then that leads to one conclusion.  Cronyism and the "old boy" net work are alive and well in the UScA.

Kyle

I'm sure glad ya'll have so much time to hash this out. Ha ha ha.

SS

Blitzen

The Climate of today has changed the date of the Moon phases, It has come early in this instance

Steve 

Just wanted to post on this topic so no one will forget this. The Good Old Boys running this organization would love this to be swept under the rug. I thought I would remind everyone of this behavior that many on the executive board find acceptable. Next time you are organizing a club trial remember someone can drive through your tracks and threaten your life and call you horrible religious slurs and this is ok with the executive board.

If you dont agree with allowing unsportsmanlike conduct, and don't agree with what happened at the Sieger Show, and are just sick of the good old boy BS in USA then remember it is an ELECTION YEAR! Its time for change the best way to effect change is through re-organization of the executive board and other  committees.

Eric S. Eisenberg

 In the end this is a pissing match that is getting out of hand between two adults acting like little kids plain and simple, If the hierarchy of USA had some balls they would bring them both together and put a end to it... but sadly there is no spine in place to do that.

This only hurts the orginization. USA has lost it,s way on a clear and sustainable path for it,s members to much turf wars and pissing matches going on here. We need a group of leaders committed to the working dog and it,s future this stuff is nothing more then a bad distraction.       

It really does not matter who was right, and who was wrong concerning the debacle that occurred in Alabama. It does not matter that it occured in Alabama or anywhere else in the U.S.A. It really does not matter who did or did not have permission to use the land for the event. The last part is certainly between the owner of the property and the governing board of the sanctioning club-no one else.

What does matter is the public conduct and behaviour of people who show in this sport, work in this sport, judge in this sport, or just participate as an interested bystander in this sport. It is a shame that middle-aged people have gone this far in life and have not learned the basic tenents of adult behaviour and understand how to maintain civil conduct during a disagreement.

And why would the governing board of U.S.c.A. even care what happened in Alabama or be concerned about any of the parties involved? Yes, over the years I have read the organization's bylaws, proposed changes to bylaws, and the current bylaws in effect and I think I can interpret the difference between a civil or slightly less than civil disagreement compared to a display of bad sportsmanship that provides a parallel comparison to the behaviour of an incivil child. But, the U.S.c.A. BOI obviously disagreed with the person(s) who filed the complaint for their own reasons-whatever they may be.

It is a shame when we host visitors and then show them examples of bad conduct. We accomplish nothing save for reinforcing negative ideas about Americans in general, and present for all interested to see a possible lack of direction and unity with the American Schutzhund sport programme. Those of us who are U.S.c.A. members, whether we are a national competitor, participant or just a member who just enjoys watching the sport must remember all of us represent the state of Schutzhund in the U.S.A..

The consitution and bylaws of the U.S.c.A. are living documents, and can be changed through parliamentary process. But, there is seldom a reason to change and/or make new rules. If the governing board of U.S.c.A. would just abide by the tenents of the current charter we might not see things such as watching certain dogs achieve VA status with bitework that is faulty, or have to watch "adults" at a Schutzhund trial conducting themselves in a tasteless manner for all the world to see.

Vote!

Bob-O

Your preachin to the choir. Agreed