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greatestgsd

by greatestgsd on 28 May 2007 - 14:05

Ziegenfarm, should the stepmom pay the child support for her stepson's kids?

ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 28 May 2007 - 15:05

i ended up adopting my stepson and raised him as my own.  don't lecture me on responsibility.  the kids should always come first.  i don't know how anyone can fill a dog dish and at the same time know that the kids are not being cared for properly.

pjp


greatestgsd

by greatestgsd on 28 May 2007 - 15:05

It is not a lecture on responsibility, it was a simple yes or no question. The only person that you would have control over is yourself. I have fed many kids that did not even belong to me nor were they even related to me. I really don't think that these people will allow the grandchildren to go hungry! They did not ask for donation, gard started this thread as a nice thought to help ease the pain these people have. I commend you for rasing your stepson as your own, that does not happen to often.

by triodegirl on 28 May 2007 - 15:05

I would be more than happy to donate to a Max Memorial fund. We just need to determine how the money would be best spent. Some very good ideas have been suggested. Everyone should chime in with their thoughts. I'm not against a puppy as long as it has a proper fenced in area for it to stay. The rescue idea is also good, but again, the dog should have a proper place to be contained.

by ProudShepherdPoppa on 28 May 2007 - 16:05

Ziegenfarm don't even get me started on that.  Suffice it to say that, according to a U. of New Hampshire study 75% of men paying child support are doing so for children who are not theirs.  Anyway, some great ideas here!

ziegenfarm

by ziegenfarm on 28 May 2007 - 17:05

and another study claimed near 80% of fathers did not support children that were theirs or were dilinquent on payments.  had he taken care of responsibilites in the first place, the LE officer would never have been there.  i just don't get a pretty picture of this entire scenario.  people need to think this over very carefully before hopping on the band wagon.  i doubt that most animal rescues would be eager to place a dog in a home where the previous one had been shot by a LE officer.  reputable breeders will not be apt to place a pup in that environment either.  i still say they have bigger problems to deal with before replacing the dog.

pjp


Trailrider

by Trailrider on 28 May 2007 - 17:05

I would like to donate. I would like to know they get a fenced yard or kennel setup, some kind of containment besides a tie out. I hate going down the hill and seeing the dog (LabX) tied out so much. It actually is not 24/7 for the last 6 months or so, but for 2 years it was. Very sad....

Short story: I have a large fenced yard, 5' and some is 6' chain link. The house was originally built to be a barn/ garage, but we added on and here we stayed, so the entrance is kinda weird. You enter thru the garage or the yard. The yard gate has a latch on the outside about half way down, just a hook and eye, and a Beware of Dog sign hung on it. One day I heard the dogs (about 10 years ago) raising a fuss. I looked out the window and there was a town patrol car there and an officer at the gate. Kate, my Lord grdt was very territorial, an on the fence kind of dog. The 5 dogs were having a fit but Kate was at the gate lunging, the PO was reaching inside the gate to look for a latch (I guess) and everytime Kate was lunging trying to bite his hand off, which he would quickly retract. WTF!!! This happened about 3 times as I stood there and watched this guy in awe, then ran on the porch and asked "can I help you ?" I went out thru the garage, hushed the dogs, and he was there to give my son a ticket. That is another story, but the thought still haunts me today, if Kate would have nailed this guy, would he have blown her or all of them away if nobody was home?? They are in the house when I leave for any length of time but sometimes if I am just making a quick trip to town and the day is nice I let them stay out, the PO could have come on an occasion like this. So it seems to me it doesn't make any difference if your dogs are in a fenced yard, kennel, or tied, if someone wants to shoot them they most certainly can.

I think we should just give them the money as good faith and they can use it for a lawyer, puppy, or kennel.... also haven't heard from Echo, maybe she is to busy, sounds like it on some of her posts.


by Blitzen on 28 May 2007 - 18:05

Go figure.........some people are so scared of GSD's they will cross the street to avoid one being walked on leash. On the other hand, there are people who will try to walk past a barking GSD and not break a sweat. Of all people, police officers should know better. I would.


allaboutthedawgs

by allaboutthedawgs on 28 May 2007 - 18:05

If you have a yard and fence then have to move to a place without one-crate the dog and walk him often as stated above.

I really HOPE that in countries who routinely chain a dog they don't use a CHOKE COLLAR, for Pete's sake.  If I was a breeder this would be a HUGE red flag. Come ON! If someone came on here and posted that they tied their dog out with a choke collar while unsupervised, no less, we would all go ballistic on them.  It is another example of the double standard being applied to this situation.

Why is it better to offer up a rescue dog to be tied with a choke than a "store bought" dog? And how the heck do we assume these people learned their lesson? I certainly haven't seen any indication that they have learned ANYTHING AT ALL about tieing a dog out on a stinking choke.

Zeigen makes an excellent point.  I don't know that some one who doesn't do the responsible thing in the provision for a child would do it for a dog.

Personally, instead of giving them a rescue dog we should give the money TO a rescue in Max's name. In which case, count me in for 25.00.

Dawg


greatestgsd

by greatestgsd on 28 May 2007 - 18:05

another point to make, should we condem the parents for their childrens mistakes? again, unless these people are, how would you say it, their lights are on but no one is home? I really think they had learned their lesson the hard way! Because of one mistake, they should never own another dog? I just can't believe that no one on this board has never make a mistake!





 


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