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Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 03 April 2009 - 21:04

Thanks MVF,  for letting me know, I only know what I need for a good obedience score in akc shows,
I am going to join a local club with Xander's daughter Tessie, she's a firecracker, I just have to wait
for them to get together again when the weather is nicer, can't wait!

by Uglydog on 04 April 2009 - 00:04

MVF.....
The DNA in a Panda Shepherd or Shiloh Shepherd,  is likely to also be About 0.00001% of GSD DNA. 

DNA proves a wolf is related to a Dalmation.

That has nothing to do with the discussion of DDR lines.
Lines establshed and perpetuated for multi generations.

That is what makes Working East German, Czech, Netherlands or West German lines unique often times.

To insist that breeding tratis havent been established and clearly evident over 50 years of dedicated breeding,is downright foolish. 
Certain breeders have established strong genetic trends and patterns.  Certain breeders in certain nations have done the same.



Ryanhaus

by Ryanhaus on 04 April 2009 - 01:04

Uglydog,

Don't forget about those cute little chihuahua's being wolves in disguise!!!!

My sisters>she has 4 of them...

Keep posting, I find your thoughts totally refreshing, and a big reminder of how we don't live in a perfect Wal-Greens
world, and that Shi_ really does happen,

Now I have to go and clean up the Hersey Squirts my pup just left meshe just got her 3rd set of booster shots
today, maybe I shouldn't have feed her, OH!>>>Wait a minute, let me call in the maid to clean it up.....YA!  Pretty Good

Elkoorr

by Elkoorr on 04 April 2009 - 17:04

DDR dogs are probably the most stable, level headed and balanced dogs arround. Yes, this is a generalization. They are sensitive, but they do not have weak nerve. Generalized training methods are most likely not going to work. They are thinkers, which can interfere with training. They have a lot of defense from early on, this does not mean that they dont have good prey, but they dont have a lot of possession (they like to share) which can interfere with training also. Overall great dogs to be arround and live with, no matter if just as pet or sport.

To the sport, I think they have proven that they are able to do it. As the lineage is not as easily distinguishable anymore, one has to specificly look at pedigrees and do some research to see what dog scored what and how high in a trial today. Besides, scores are team based and there is no differenciation made if the handler screwed a point or the dog. Also a dog is only as good as its handler, trainer and helper, no matter the linage. And its well known, that there are issues finding good helpers/ trainers for bringing up/teaching young dogs per their individuality, and not making it a generalized ring circus (as one breeder said so nicely)

From someone who had the DDR GSD imprinted since babyhood.



by Trafalgar on 04 April 2009 - 20:04

It's easy to remember the proper spelling for Dalmatian

No "o" anywhere in the word.



by Trafalgar on 04 April 2009 - 20:04

Of course MVF is correct. Folklore.

But that accounts for 99% of all the "dogma" about purebred dogs.

Hype runs rampant in the dog world. People tend to repeat what they've heard.

They're often more likely (for some ungodly reason) to be even more attached to a concept if they CAN'T identify where they've heard it!)







darylehret

by darylehret on 05 April 2009 - 01:04

"They have a lot of defense from early on, this does not mean that they dont have good prey, but they dont have a lot of possession (they like to share) which can interfere with training also."~Elkoor

Of course, that is only a generalization also.  My only DDR dog has little to no presence of defense by 3 years age (except of her toys or litter), but is extremely possessive, which also interferes with training.

Elkoorr

by Elkoorr on 05 April 2009 - 15:04

LOL...darylehret........some are just the exception to the ~generalized~ rule!  Would love to see your girl, sounds like she has a ton of personality. Wish may girl would have a little more possession, as in her mind it does not make sense to carry a yacky heavy sleeve back to the car......hahaha

I cherish the DDRs more than any other line, maybe because I have been around them as long as I can think. Its true that a lot  has been lost over the last 20 years. I still feel that it is worthwhile though to preserve the linage even tho the DDR is gone for good.

darylehret

by darylehret on 08 April 2009 - 03:04

" it does not make sense to carry a yacky heavy sleeve back to the car"

Doesn't make sense to proudly carry around a 10 ft. tree limb either, but she does it anyway.  I swear to you she's not overweight, just "stubby".  Not as fast as a couple of my dogs with near-malinois speed, but not slow either, and a real good jumper.  Clearing 4&half feet onto a haystack is no problem anyway.  And a real sweetheart overall, evidently too "nice" to care about protection training.  I can't figure why.  I keep her anyway.  The only time I've seen her in true defense, was to protect her litter from a familiar family friend that came to visit.



With that blocky head lending to very strong grips, if someone else has what she wants, she usually gets it from them.  And you wouldn't believe the hair raising barks and growls that escape her throat if anyone gets near her stuff.  I've never heard any sound from a dog as "chilling".  Coincidence that she was born on Halloween?








 


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