Top Ten SchH Trainers in America - Page 4

Wanderer: Then you better take Gary Hanrahan off the list

And a few others

Yellorose,

Why take Gary off list? because he did not train dog from schh1 to schh3? because if that is the case, you are wrong my friend, Ico vom ardhaus, he won north american and national before as well as make a team or two with him.

who is Ico vom ardhaus

just one of the dogs Gary has titled from zero to sch3, but if you really know the sport, you know the the history of the sport  ;-)

How come the pedigree is vacant of any info? I thought Pam Titled that dog? I can go dig in my box of communications and see, but for no reason to me.....I cant stand Him........

Who gives a rats ass if you can't stand someone, atleast have the courage as Shelly did to put the name out there as a top trainer even though you do not care for that person.  It is ridiculous that people these days can't be objective about things despit their personal feelings.  Its no wonder Schutzhund gets such a shitty reputation.  Even if someone is at the top of their game many people wont give credit just because they dont like them....its two different issues.

When I apply the criteria from Wanderer T Floyd and Wallace Payne come to my mind.

Reasons:

Wallace needs no explaining!

As for T, just look at what he has done with other peoples dogs not just his own.  I personally saw T with Karlo & a dog from Mittelwest at the Nationals in San Jose.  I have to say I was thouroughly impressed with the way T and his dog (Karlo) showed that day.  Just look at the history books...T is everywhere.

S VARGAS :  MAYBE YOU HAVE NEVER DONE BUSINESS WITH HIM AND MAYBE THERE ARE THINGS THAT KEEP HIM FROM FITTING INTO THE CRITERIA OF REPRESENTING THE SPORT WITH INTEGRITY AND PROMOTING GOOD AND ENLIGHTENING OTHERS,    MINE IS NOT AN OPINION,  AND ITS BASED ON COLD HARD FACTS AND     IF IT LOOKS LIKE SHIT, AND ACTS LIKE SHIT, AND LEAVES SHIT ON OTHER PEOPLE , THAN ITS SHIT,  AND IF THAT IS WHAT MAKE A TOP TEN TRAINER THAN LET IT BE.......I DONT AGREE....MY RIGHT TO STATE A FACT.....AND I WILL NOT TAKE IT ANY FURTHER.....SOME OTHERS MIGHT , AND IF THEY DO , ILL JUMP ON THE BAND WAGON...i HAVE A WHOLE FILE THAT IS FULL OF SHIT....SO IF YOU WANT TO GET NASTY   I WILL BOW OUT OF THIS ONE....I MADE MY STATEMENT AND I STICK WITH...... LIKING A PERSON HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH IT,,    PERSONAL FEELINGS HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH IT....TO BE AT THE TOP YOU HAVE TO BE MORE THAN A TRAINER, LIKE WANDERER STATED........

T IS GREAT, AND WALLACE PAYNE IS ALSO AND DEAN AND IVAN ARE KING OF THE ROAD, AND DEBRA ZAPPIA LONG BEFORE GH...

ramble on, Ramblin' Rose.....

Ok, Lets try this as far as stats are concern, who is the 10 top SchH trainers in the United States of America? And can you please keep your personal likes and dislikes out of it. Some of the name I've seen on this post haven't done a damn thing Regionally, Nationally, or internationally. But, I would assume most of you don't know anything outside of your own back yard, and from what I've seen most of you don't have any Real U.S. Schutzhund History going for yourself.

So can someone please give a history lesson with your top ten? I bet people from other  countries could? You know why? Because they will not put their personal likes and dislikes in it. I'm only taking about SchH this is not a Butt Kissing question.  Accomplishment only!!