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by angusmom on 26 June 2007 - 21:06

i've seen shilohs at the Pet Expos in so cal. they are beautiful. hearing about the problems w/in the group of breeders tends to be a bit off-putting. we had thought about a shiloh, but decided on a gsd.  we didn't like the severe angulation of some shepherds we saw, but it seems like those are mostly in the show lines. i hope any probs w/in the breeding community get resolved because they are a very nice looking dog and the ones i saw at the expos were nicely mannered w/lots of people around them all day long.


vonissk

by vonissk on 26 June 2007 - 22:06

Great post Pia--I have a working line dog and agree with you totally.......................


by Jeff Oehlsen on 26 June 2007 - 23:06

Quote: ...but I thought that they were appearing in SAR like that spoke very highly of the breed....

Just teasing here, but finding things in the woods isn't really that difficult. Good handlers put the dogs where they are most likely to find the lost person. It is more the handlers understanding of the area and such then some amazing dog. Besides, you want to find people? Get a coondog. They'll find you.


by Preston on 27 June 2007 - 01:06

Here's my view on Shiloh Shepherds:                                                                                                                                                                      1-it's a free country, if you have no conscience one can do anything legal and sell anything an uninformed person will buy


by Preston on 27 June 2007 - 01:06

Here's my view on Shiloh Shepherds:                                                                                                                                                                                      1-it's a free country, if you have no conscience one can do anything legal and sell anything an uninformed person will buy


by Preston on 27 June 2007 - 01:06

Here's my view on Shiloh Shepherds:                                                                                                                                                                                       1-it's a free country, if you have no conscience one can do anything legal and sell anything an uninformed person will buy


by Preston on 27 June 2007 - 01:06

Here's my view on Shiloh Shepherds:                                                                                                                                                                                         1-it's a free country, if you have no conscience one can do anything legal and sell anything an uninformed person will buy


by Preston on 27 June 2007 - 01:06

Here's my view on Shiloh Shepherds:                                                                                                                                                                                          1-it's a free country, if you have no conscience one can do anything legal and sell anything an uninformed person will buy


by Preston on 27 June 2007 - 01:06

Here's my view on Shiloh Shepherds:                                                                                                                                                                                          1-it's a free country, if one has no conscience or no ability to really judge the difference between quality and aberations, one can do any kind of breeding of dogs that is legal and sell such to an uninformed person if their "sales pitch" is a good enough con and the buyer is ignorant enough. 2-Shiloh's are a breeding aberation based on unsound breeding concepts used to select out some of the worst GSD genes that ever existed. 3-No other breed or quasi-breed (such as Shiloh Shepherds, especially Shiloh Shepherds) compares to quality bred working or showline West German or European GSDs. 4-In general American Shepherds are bad, but Shilohs are much worse, due to the poor set of genes selected during breeding to produce a distinctive, but grossly inferior animal. 5-In my view Shilohs represent the epitomy of breeding grossly inferior animals to establish a so-called new breed to gain some notability and a self promoting market base. 6-The genes selected out to form the so-called Shiloh breed violate every breed characteristic that the esteemed Capt. Von Stephanitz worked so hard to establish the GSD breed's overall quality.  6-It's a tribute to our free country that these aberations can be bred and sold, but as usual it's always caveat emptor, buyer beware. If folks want em, it's fine.  Just don't present them as quality animals when they are not for many reasions that are obvious to anyone who understands why the FCI standard was implemented for GSDs and why the SV has been doing breed surveys for years.  It is the purposeful genetic shift away from the GSD standard to form this "new breed" that has resulted in this gross aberation called Shiloh Shepherd, in my opinion. 

 


by KEYCAT on 27 June 2007 - 01:06

Preston,You said it !And could not have said it better!






 


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