Von Erzengel Z littler Puppy with Major Genetic Defects - Page 2

Pedigree Database

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

Premium classified

This is a placeholder text
Group text

by Blitzen on 26 June 2007 - 23:06

So sorry about your puppy, I'm sure you must be just heartbroken.  I know how it feels to buy a dog from a breeder who doesn't care.  


Birdy

by Birdy on 26 June 2007 - 23:06

Sounds like the breeder swears she has the best gurantee EVER!

 

That's what gets me there are breeders out there who bitch that their customers did follow "obey" the contract but who protects the buyers.

 

Sorry you've been taken on your puppy. Maybe someone should contact this breeder  and invite them to the database to hear their side of the story.

 

Birdy...

Here's what the web pages says:

 

Our goal in breeding is to retain for our breeding programs and provide police K9s.  Puppies are sold AFTER those pups have been identified.  If you want the absolute pick of the litter or to reserve the LE Police Puppy, you MUST have your deposit in and puppy reserved.   Contact us immediately with your wants / needs from any of these upcoming breedings.

If you have a deposit on file, and something happens a breeding does not occur, you may chose from another litter.  It is first come first serve.  We try to get everyone what they need, but we can't help you if we don't know what you want.

All puppies are 100% guaranteed or your money back. PERIOD.  You get full registration (unless otherwise indicated) and it is YOUR dog.  We do not have co-ownerships, we do not tell you what to do with the pup.  We hope our judgment in who gets the puppy will be enough.  We do offer our own chat list to support any problems or concerns you may have, to answer any questions you have and to keep in touch with every person who has an Archangel.  

We do business the old fashioned way - you are buying a quality puppy, and will pay top dollar for that.  Nordstrom's, Neiman Marcus, Cadillac all are expensive, you are paying for the quality of the item and the no hassle customer service you receive.  We are no different.  You always have a contact and if we don't know the answer - we'll find out!

Malinda Julien


by sunshine on 26 June 2007 - 23:06

I have met Melinda as she was a photographer at one of our Regional shows. She is a  very soft spoken woman. . .

You might try to find a common platform and try to negotiate again???

 


by GregLeavitt on 26 June 2007 - 23:06

You said "Breeder refused refund or return of pup for another" did you have a contract? warranty?


by VonErzengel puppy with major defects on 27 June 2007 - 00:06

Thanks-  Im thinking that way too! 


by ALPHAPUP on 27 June 2007 - 00:06

Von Erz. -- my empahty for you . truely so ... personally i have gotten a lot of flack from GSD folk .. especially the show line . even with qualifying that I am versed in geneitcs about as well as anyone .. my GRIPE - to much line breeding ! to the point the detrimental traits are so kept and intensified !  people in the show lines were about ready to come gunning for me .. I looked at the pedigree posted .. what do you know .. major line breeding ! aside from the fame and glory .. why line breed ? and why line breed so intensively . ?? you mean to say one  cannot produce healthy GSDs with excellent structure and working capability with a very good outcross? of course one  can .. i tell people i have half show and half working line GSD V rated stgructure at 10 months old doing a police demo , apprehension and guard and escort / escape attacks . Another very very sad .. to me .. a very disheartening story . my best to you  Von Erz. ... maybe by sharing this and also by the grace of the Good Lord .. someday breeders of the GSD will see the light .


by VonErzengel puppy with major defects on 27 June 2007 - 00:06

Contract. She told us this occurs in Europeans and that it was the chance we took.  Since we are in Calif and she in Tx smalls claims is out of the questions.  I did file an SPCA report, and also send the medical documents to AKC.


by VonErzengel puppy with major defects on 27 June 2007 - 00:06

Tried with phone calls, emails.  I even sent a copy of the contract and her 100% satisfaction.  She says that this occurs in some dogs and therefore no refund will be offered.  The first day we got the pup we noticed his rib sticking out and one testicle was not down,  also she never told us this was a long haired pup, she stated this was a sable pup.  The pup was so small the Vet thought he was 5 weeks old.  The vet told me to contact her immediately because the puppy had major problems.  I did and she refused to take the pup back.  I sent the medical diagnosis and bills as proof and still she refused any help.  This is a horrible thing she did to me, and this little innocent puppy, she knew he was in major trouble at his well check.  I had an ortho specialist check him Dr. Gary Brown and he stated the breeder knew of these defects before the dog was sent.  This was just plain malicous and a total rip off.  She should be ashamed to have Archangel as a name.


by VonErzengel puppy with major defects on 27 June 2007 - 00:06

She also refused to send the FULL Registration, I demanded she send this, but she told me since I thought the dog had genetic defects she would not send.  I got the litter registration only


by trp_k9 on 27 June 2007 - 00:06

The dam is Calibre z Eurosportu http://www.archangelgermanshepherds.com/caliber.htm (bred  by Eurosport k-9). This much line breeding is not necessarily bad, as long as there is not such a tight line breeding on a dog who was known for his bad hips. When breeding, bad hips can pop up in pups of parents with great hips, but if line bred this thight on a dog who had 2/0 hips, this is asking for trouble IMO.






 


Contact information  Disclaimer  Privacy Statement  Copyright Information  Terms of Service  Cookie policy  ↑ Back to top