NASS commentary - Page 8

I meant 3 days was too soon for most dogs to be in trials after an intenational flight. We people are supposed to adjust to travel more quickly... then again, we don't travel in the cargo hold. (at least most of us)

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Did the SV judges measuring the dogs????

Yes! Even the 18-24 mos. females. It took forever, but I support the effort. Its time we stopped breeding draft animals.

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Coming in late here but I'll still add my two cents.  First, as the judge said his heart is with the breeders and he awarded what he believed to be 10 well earned VAs.  What I love over the SV system of conformation over AKC is that it isn't just one dog that goes home with the prize but an opportunity to see what we is out there.  The quality of dogs this year were exceptional and it was wonderful to see that even the last dog was an excellent example of what a GSD should be.

I am always saddened when we revert to the showlines vs working lines debate.  I want a structurally sound dog that can work.  To me that is still most likely to be a West German Showline.  I train with a club of mostly showlines and I will match their working ability with any club of working line dogs.

While I was somewhat disappointed with the number of bitches who failed the protection phase, I will not judge a dog on one performance.  I will say that considering the field steup, which while better than last year, but still lacking, I was very pleased with the protection phases.

Overall, I thought this year was a big improvement over last year and I thank Danny for stepping in and doing such an wonderful job.

Last, I would like to congratulate Ray and Santo.  I know this dog well and he is, in my opinion, what we are all working for, a breathtakingly handsome dog who truly can work and most importantly is loved and loves.

Let us not forget what Max's goal was for our breed.  I can say without a doubt that Santo is an excellent example of a GSD that Max would truly be proud of.

Kudos to all who had a hand in producing and shaping this dog.

"then again, we don't travel in the cargo hold. (at least most of us)"

Shelley, ever taken a flight to Europe in the middle seat squeezed in between two ...um... girth-challenged passengers?  I think I'll sign up for cargo space next time and have more room.  LOL

Bwah ha ha ha hah ha!

Know what you mean. they only Transatlantic flight I was on with worse circumstances was on my way home from a visit to Germany for Christmas one year. The entire rest of the passenger list must have been GI's wives and young children/babies, none of whom were enjoying their ears hurting when they didn't pop with altitude changes. Forget sleep, the babies screamed nearly the whole way, rotating in chorus. Frankfurt to SF, it seemed like the longest flight in history. My dogs, in the cargo hold, definitely had the better end of that deal!

They don't seem to miss airline food, either...

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American BRED to me would be BRED in America.  Not bought from America and imported in whelp or shipped from America and paid for & whelped in the US.

We are highlighting the dogs that are BRED in America.  The reason for this is that there are so few .... it isn't as easy (or popular).

This year there were 11 dogs in each working class that would be considered "American Bred" if that broad term were allowed (and unfortunately it is).  In those two classes only 3 in one and 4 in the other WERE BRED in America.

America Bred:

1)  BRED in America

2)  No FOREIGN Registration would be needed to register the dog or the litter - after all it was BRED here.

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So if I order a Swiss watch on the internet and have it shipped to the US and live in the US, does that make it an American watch???

The NASS Sieger TeeJay is a Nero v Nobachtal son. Nero as is well known had less than desireable elbows. Since this was the first year the GSDCA-WDA required elbow certification, does anyone know what TeeJay's are? a normal, fast normal or like Pakros noch zugelassen?

It was I who raised this subject of American bred very early on in this thread asking which females and males in the working classes had parents who were both born in the U.S. I never did receive an answer to that.

In my opinion, at a bare minimum, a dog, to be considered American bred ought to have 2 parents who were born in the U.S., lived in the US, titled in the US and bred in the US.

I think we are kidding ourselves if we think we are breeding American bred dogs just because the dam, after being bred in Germany or elsewhere, happens gives birth to her puppies in the U.S. This is not an American breeding program. This is mere geographical transportation. I believe a previous poster said there were 11 dogs who were American bred. Who are they?

It isn't about the parents ........ why should they be bred here?  Its about the DOG.  Was he/she bred in America??  Is the sire in America for other Americans to use?