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by Blitzen on 14 February 2008 - 04:02

Trailrider, I just logged on to that site. The Origen Fish and Sea Vegs is $67.99, the adult is $57.99 and the shipping to PA is $28.24. 

I'm going to call a local feed store to see if he can get me a bag.  If this stuff were readily available they would probably become millionaires in a year or less.


Trailrider

by Trailrider on 14 February 2008 - 04:02

Aaahhgg! It said on the left hand column shipping Free on orders over $40.00! They had some other stuff I was thinking about getting too.... I will have to go thru the motions or give them a call. I think they had a phone # listed.


by Blitzen on 14 February 2008 - 04:02

I'm sorry, you are right, it is free shipping if you type the word "free" in the promotional box. I didn't see that. I guess I'll order a bag right now so I can sleep tonight.


Trailrider

by Trailrider on 14 February 2008 - 04:02

Blitzen OK I just went to the site, I chose the Adult formular, its what I use. BTW I have tried the sample Fish & Sea Veggies and it really smells fish! Then when the next window opens fill in your state and zip, in the Coupon Code you are suppose to type Free, hit Apply!  A new window comes up with Free shipping (7 day ground). I then hit recalculate to be sure and it was $57.99.... it would be interesting to see if it is still free all the way to PA!


by Speaknow on 14 February 2008 - 09:02

Judged by above preoccupation, pet food manufacturers’ advertising millions clearly produce desired results! Ever wondered what slaughterhouses do with surplus offal and other unsavory byproduct? It’s boiled down as one, processed, and sold by the ton to … you guessed it! These in turn add their magic additives, fillers and processing, together with pretty labeling pretending beef, chicken etc Quite a few of the more outspoken vets attribute more recent and often ill-defined dog and cat health problems directly to modern pet foods. Blitzen said similar: “I don't think the vet world is getting to the actual source of these adverse reactions and why our dogs have so many more allergies today than they had 20 years ago. Something has changed making many immune cripples that recognize proteins as the enemy and send out histamines to "kill" them. For sure, these scratching dogs should never be used for breeding, but I think many breeders minimize it as "just a dog with some skin problems" when in fact it goes a lot deeper that that.” When not solidly worked, as also applies to horses, there’s little need for sophisticated high protein formulations. (Merely an advertising gimmick, and I never cease being amazed at the numerous experienced breeders falling for it; promotional freebies help no end of course!) Similar applies to pups; in fact, too rapid growth can inflict all kinds of problems. Domestic animals, for a fit long life, should ideally always be kept slightly ‘peckish’. Manufacturers strive for tastiness which mostly means that the animal eats far more than it should, or would otherwise. The food most relished is that for which dogs need to work, struggle or compete; and ready bowl of pet food elixir is easily passed up for a smelly bone proudly dug from who knows. Make them work (fetch is a handy standby) and reward with healthy treats instead. It involves too much work for me and going by comments elsewhere I doubt most here will believe it, but an elderly couple not far away own some of the healthiest, most energetic animals I know; all they get is a daily mash of potato, vegetables and beef/kidney mix, loving it I’m told! .

by Larrydee on 14 February 2008 - 11:02

Trailrider        I mix the Orijen Adult and Fish formula together.  I've heard they are looking into using fresh fish from the ocean.  They now use fresh fish caught from local Canadian clear water lakes. But the demand for the fish formula outstripes their capacity to manufacture it

 

The problem is that Orijen has become so popular especially down here in the lower 48 that they have had quite a bit of shortages on their product .   There are very few pet food companies that go thru the procurement and quality control procedures that Orijen does.  I believe that is because they are family owned not owned by some conglroment that is totally focused just on the bottom line.


Trailrider

by Trailrider on 14 February 2008 - 15:02

Larry I  Know first hand about their shortage as when I went to order the lg. bag one time they told me about their back order issue and why. I just hope they don't get so big they loose sight of the quality.

Speaknow You are correct in all the advertising gimmics used to tout dog food, the best feed is RAW or home prepared diets as your neighbors do for their dogs. The reason a few of us are talking so much about Orijen is for when we travel, camping,  or just feeling a bit lazy want to have a clean ,quality commercial food on hand.


by Larrydee on 14 February 2008 - 16:02

Trailrider

               Could you tell me what your exact raw diet is for your dog's?   I'm about 70% raw now just need to fine tune it a little bit before I go totally raw.  I know you have put quite a bit of research into it.

I have looked high and low spent hour upon hour researching dog food and I agree with you raw is the best way to go and that Orijen is by far the best kibble on the market. There are times when kibble is your only choice.

 

Thanks

Larry


Trailrider

by Trailrider on 14 February 2008 - 17:02

Ahhhg! Larry you would have to ask that! I don't have an exact proportions. I watch their weight, if they gain I cut back, if they loose I ad more. So with that out of the way: My main protein sources are chicken, deer/elk meat. The chickens are stewers and are from the Hutterites. Hormone/antibiotic free. I have a Tyson Meat grinder and grind the chickens, its just for my own piece of mind. I also don't think its the chewing that keeps their teeth clean and white but the enzymes in the raw meat that does. I don't grind the game meat, it is cut in large chunks.I also use beef liver 2-3 times a week, lightly brazed (again for me) and raw eggs 2-3 per dog a week. I once in awhile will buy pork or hamburger to change the protein, but not to often really. I give canned salmon about two cans a week (3 dogs split that) but twice a day ad 1000 mg fish oil caps. I buy alfapha/kelp from Leerburg mix it together and give a tsp. a day.I also will use left over rice, or pasta occasionally and plain yogurt. I grind up veggies/fruit usually once a week like carrots, romaine, celery, green peppers, broccoli, apples, bananas, whatever the fridge holds at the time and ad a tbls. to the ground chicken in their bowl and mix it up, if I run out I don't sweat it. I think one key is to have variety. I also use K9 Showstopper but not when I ad the alfalpha/kelp. I did just buy a 2# Canine Complete. I bought it once before on your suggestion but didn't give it a good enough try I don't think, and went back to Showstopper. I like to use something like that because of the digestive enzymes and probiotics. I ad garlic and organic apple cider vinegar too occasionally, about two meals a week. I keep health food store bone meal on hand for times I run out of chicken and just use hamburger or game meat. They look good and my vet bills have been minimum.


by Larrydee on 14 February 2008 - 19:02

Trailrider

               Thanks so much sounds like a great diet.  I swear by Canine Complete.     I give Gunner raw chicken bones and all he chews them up real good.  Maybe I should grind them up.    I'm going to have to write all this down.

          






 


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