There are a lot of quotes flying around here, derived from published text.

The problem with all this reliance on quotes of written text of whatever era or date, newspapers in particular, is that they are sometime unintentionally inaccurate, and sometimes delibertly inaccurate, and often both at the same time.  You cannot trust the content of any newspaper article or any book, you must read it with the knowledge that it may not be true in part or whole. 

My brother went to a protest once, and he stood on the side lines, counting and calculating the numbers of people present with him protesting.  He said there were about 500 people present.  He was present for the entire thing.

The newspaper reported that 5,000 people showed up for the protest.  So much for acuracy of reporting.

This is very common with newspapers, except that it is often much worse-- and intentional.

Veronica

Diary entries, Speeches, & Public announcements...from Statesmen & Leaders,  have more weight than any editorialized piece written in a censored & controlled Media mouthpiece like a newspaper.

It was no accident that Judea declared war ON Germany in 1933. A Very well known,  established fact.

I have many more quotes.  If youd like, Id be happy to publish them..

This is so true Veronica,  even worst now than ever before.  All media.  Makes you wonder who's in control.

I think most people know this, but a lot dont.   We're so screwed......

Never hurts to question anything.  Make up your own mind , test ones common sense.

good point Veronica.

Ugly, what about the quotes by Shawcross at the Nuremberg trial? From the official transcript?

Back to this?   

later ugly.    you've lost me again.

much later.

allaboutdawgs...Nuremburg a dog and pony show.. Nothing more. False confessions, torture, deprivation.  The ICRC  International Red Cross, attributes 95% of deaths due to "Allied Aerial bombardment" of Supply Lines. 

America is now being sued in a class action lawsuit by Hungarian Jews that were in Auschwitz.   Im not sure we have any culpability. I thought it was 60+ years ago.  And  I thought we rescued them but the suit is for $40 Billion, filed last week.

Politicians like Shawcross sometimes reflect later in life & discover their mistakes, shortcomings, their own sense of justice & right & wrong.  I think at 84, Shawcross had nothing to lose but to die suppressing the truth. 

Like President Carter with his latest book.."Peace Not Apartheid" he was committed to the truth & to justice.

Veronica & 2moons. 

One cannot "Un SAY" something that is said. That is why quotes are so powerful. 

There is no journalist writing his interpretation. They are public statements, all verifiable.

I listed many from prominant people so as to support the official position of many of the enemies of Germany.  It wasnt as one sided as Youd like others to believe.

And his affair with the wife of a serial killer that was on trial under his own auspices?  Quite a set of standards there.

We freed who? I thought your position was that we didn't free Jews in Auschwitz and that we certainly didn't accomplish anything in WWII? Surely if they should have some shame in suing us for rescuing them, that would qualify as a deed that deserves some gratitude?

From what I understand his crossover to a different political spectrum had to do with something much more concrete than ideals.

I never said anything of his standards in choosing intimate partners...Just that as he aged he spoke for Justice.

Cetainly we freed those put in work camps. That was Auschwitz was. A giant munitions factory, well equipped with factories & many amentities for building war armaments.

I stated succinctly that the fruits of WW2 were...

1. Creating a UN-the League of Nations was not enough to acomplish their goals.

2. Creating a Israel. 

One group (Brits) gave land belonging to another group (Palestinians) to a 3rd group from Europe (Zionist  Ashkenazi Jews)

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