Put up or shut up (callin ya'll out) - Page 10

Sorry I  did read the original post good enough, missed the "Not who train(ed) with, who you purchased your dog from, what seminar you attended. Not I'm the TD or helper for this unknown mystery club...." part , so disregard everything in my last post except "Have trained a few dogs to SchH titles (for clients)" and that was only for titles not points. Sometimes I have to agree with what a good friend of mine in Germany who says "Anything over 70 - 70-  80 points is animal cruelty". (thats a joke)

I have had GSD's for close to 18 years and not until the internet came around did I even know what Shutzhund was.I got Reyna vom Johnson Haus 4 years ago at 8 weeks old and have since titled her to her Sch 3 and competed at the South East regional this year.I was a self proclaimed dog trainer of my own dogs until I got the wake up call in Schutzhund.Now I feel ignorant in the world of dogs and try to learn daily.I love it and it is a true passion.I am very very fortuanate to have gotton Reyna as my first Sch dog for she is forgiving to all my mistakes and yet she continues to excel.I plan on continuing my learning and training dogs as long as I can.I am now also training one of Reyna's pups (Archer von Stone Haus) and plan on competing with him as well.

Wow lots of impressive titles, time and money well spent.  Guess I am nowhere near as impressive, 8 years with one K9, 5 years with one tracker, 2 years and a BH before a health issue with my female forced her to retire. Fun to read everyones' accomplishments and the pride they have in them.

Nice thread!  Sorry I'm late for the party.  I've been involved with Sch since about 2000 and I still consider myself a novice, since all I've got to show for the last 7 or 8 years is an AD, a BH, and a heaping dose of bad luck when it comes to GSD's.  I'm working my way down the "what can possibly go wrong with this dog" list... low drives, poor temperament, soft ears, bad elbows, undescended testicles, bad hips.  I'm looking at my 4 month old puppy now and thinking, "At what point is your head just going to spontaneously fall off?"

Clearly, no one is going to be impressed with this piddly track record, so if you don't want to read the hokey little "newbie gets first BH" story I'm about to tell then just move on.  You have been warned.

Back then, I had that puppy only a few weeks before blowing out a knee in a soccer game.  Wrapped up in a soft leg cast I couldn't even walk my own dog, much less work him.  My BF would walk him and then I'd sit on the couch and throw the ball down the hall for him.  Thank goodness he was a natural retreiver.  When I finally got most of my mobility back I had six months to train for the BH, which is probably twice as long as the pros would need but for a first-timer it seemed grim.  The last month before the trial my plant went on turnaround and I was stuck working 12 hrs a day 7 days a week on night shift.  I got permission to take the day off for our trial.  I was so tired I couldn't even stay awake to watch my friends and club mates do their protection routines.  I was so happy (and so exhausted) once I passed that I started to laugh and cry at the same time, which probably sounded a lot like a braying donkey to everyone else.

I have no delusions that this means anything to anyone else but me.  I know my limits and sometimes I stick to them.  LOL.  You'll never see me trying to tell someone how to nail a running stand, or when to test progesterone levels in a brood bitch.  I called the USA office and asked if there was an award for the longest membership without ever titling a dog, and they told me I could win a trophy made of shredded copy paper and eraser shavings. I'm gonna bronze that sucker and hang it on the wall. 

Yvette

Yvette, congratulations!  Way to stick with it, good luck with your dog.

Jim

Franz von Knoefler (aka Dante) - First dog

Title? Well loved pet that behaves himself in public and receives compliments on such?
 

Best I can do at this point!!

Barb

Well, here it goes! I've got nothing to impress anyone with, but maybe in 10 years I can come back and give you a list of accompishments! I'm definately a newbie, and a very young one at that. My mom imported and trained Border Collies for years and I remember some of them when I was younger, I was always very interested in training them (or any dog we had!) to do more advanced obedience, and especially jump things since I was competing in jumping on horses (still am). I got my first GSD almost 5 years ago and have been learning everything I can about the genetics and training. I'm getting into the breeding, as these dogs have proven to be the only thing I've ever found that I enjoy as much as my horses. 

I can say that I definately know a fair amout about health issues (a lot of that would come from growing up with all these different animals and working with some excellent trainers) and want to produce some excellent dogs. In breeding the horses I have seen so many people jump in and start breeding without knowing exactly what they are producing, and it's not appreciated by the ones who have taken time (of course!) It's not a problem that they havn't had all kinds of accomplishments in the ring (or on the field if you talking about dogs I guess) but that they aren't breeding quality animals and raising them as they should.

I have only posted to a couple of things on this board because I don't have much to contribute when people ask training or pedigree questions, I'd rather sit back and learn, and hopefully find someone help me stay in the right direction with my dogs. I think I'm more interested east german & czech working lines, but to be hoenst my first few dogs have been west german, they are great and produced a beatiful litter a while back that I have kept a female from and would like to keep for future breeding (if she turns out as I hope!)

For my dogs - I have a SchH3 male,www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/127786.html who I bought with that title - A SchH1 female,www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/121082.html who I also bought with this title - A very nice female (actually I like her a lot more than the titled female) and she is a Timo daughter also - A female pup I kept from a litter out of the first two dogs and she is just starting Therapy Dog work - A male from Slovakia that isn't even home yet - And looking for two nice females to add.

And thats about all there is to it! There are a lot of people on this board that I like to read what they have to say, I've learned who has something to help me out and who doesn't - Thanks everyone and I'm always looking for advice.

I started out with a puppy and helped with him before giving him to my mom who went on to put a SchH3, CD (with one leg of the CDX), CGC, TC on him. 

I bought my Libby as a 7 week old puppy and she is completely HOT.  She has her SG show rating, SchH3 IPO3 WH TR3 OB3 Kkl2 AD CD HIC CGC TC. 

I kept her daughter Brat who is BHOT and has her SchH2 OB1 AD CGC TC and still working on titles once she is finished with her pups.  We will hopefully try for her SchH3 later this year as well as some AKC titles she has been working towards.

I kept Brat's daughter Drama who will be BHOT also and is 16 months old and not titled yet but hopefully we will go for our BH this summer.

I bought a 3 year old female who had gotten her BH over a year previously and didnt do much training, I put a SchH1 CGC TC on her. 

I have not been on here that much lately and find this post interesting. It really shows the arroygance and narrow-mindness of some for example. The implication is that is if you don't title your dogs that you don't know how to train dogs. The other implication is that police dogs and officiers are among the elite trainers in the world. I can tell you for a FACT that many police K-9 officiers are terrible trainers and their dogs sub-par in genetics and training. Some are outstanding but many are at best average trainers.

So now a few of you are ready to pounce on me "whats your history"?

20 years training in trailing and air scenting from SAR to narcotics. Trained six dogs in trailing and agility. Untold numbers of times I have been a free decoy. Worked mainly with GSD"S but assisted with quite a few Mals and Labs. Keep my dogs from pups to they die of old age. Neighbors may be scared of my dogs at first then love them once they see how well trained and behaved they are. I have seen many police and sport dogs that the owners could not trust. Every one of my dogs had rock solid nerves and did strong bite work, going after the man not the sleeve. Then they played with my kids. One special talent is the ability to help trouble dogs break bad habits, few people are really good at this.

Lastly, being a good trainer does not make you a good breeder plus not being a trainer does not mean you can not be a good breeder. Each calls for special talents and effort.

I trained for 15 years with a person who makes their living training narcotics and now explosive dogs. All they have to show is a certificiate that allows them special privilages. Trust me, this person may not have fifty titles but know as much as any person here on this board on training. Seldom breeds but very talented.

This is not to take away or insult people who achieve sporting titles as you shoud be very proud but that does not mean people who do not compete have no right to speak up on this board!

Also, I invite everyone to keep posting and sharing your thoughts as many of us are always open to hearing new ideals. Just because you may be new to the dog world does not mean you have nothing to offer. After all my years I still pick up new things from other people that I try, some work for me and some don't. One thing I have learned early in life is to listen to other people, many times us "older" people get so stuck on doing things "our" way we can miss out on opportunities to make improvements in our training. Not trying to make people mad but this is what I think about this subject.