Put up or shut up (callin ya'll out) - Page 9

NO, good point about being able to train dogs "without a leash in your hand".  How do you do that, maybe use NLP like practice magic?  Maybe you have experience training dogs professionally and have developed your own special methods? If they are that good you could patent them or copyright them, no?   I find there is no substitue for love and bonding with the dog, having him(her) in the house as a pet 24/7.  Bullying and harsh treatment doesn't work very well with pets or people, don't you think?  Threatening a dog doesn't work nearly as well as loving support and respect, does it, just like with people we asociate with at work, perhaps supervise, at home or other associates we interact with.   And people that severely abuse, it usually catches up with them when too many find out about it, don't you think.  Sometimes it's easier to feel something than see it clearly, and some sense pressure easier than others and learn to respond to the mag-environment appropriately, kinda like intyeracting with themselves symbolically, don't you think? 

Geez, I meant to say mega-environment, kinda like Richard Perle would say. 

Oh by the way, NO, I suggest you lighten up on the subliminals of your messages.  You used these loaded phrases to the exclusion of normal stuff:  

>unfortunately, wound up being destroyed, unconrolled aggression, stopped breeding, can no longer justify, shelters ae overflowing, worry, required by law, leave your side, rather be killed, enhance the empathy, black and tan canines.

Geez, your story comes off pretty strange here, don't you think?  I promise not use attempt remote control hypnosis here if you second that.

Thanks Jim.

And yes, I am not posting much because spring is here and I'm out with the dogs. I have at least 4 to title this year, one in the Sieger show 10 days from now, and another one coming to train for the USA Nationals in Nov. No time to dink around online these days.

SS

Oh my, I mispoke again, I ment to say Fritz Pearl as in Virginia Satir and Karl Whittaker.  Being that much of my training came from the blind doctor in a wheel chair in "cactus city" and the "fat man" in LA, and the "practice magic man" himself, I have to be careful not to resort to wordsmithing and subliminal counterdeflection especially when training my pets.

Shelly, good luck in the Siegar show, I'm sure you'll do well.  I used to handle confirmation dogs in the show ring before I became a cop.  I handled many dogs in regional shows and even the US Siegar Show ( the last Siegar Show was 2000) for several breeders.  I really enjoyed handling the dogs.  There is a lot of strategy that goes into handling a dog in the ring, to make sure it shows well compared to the other dogs.  The weather in PA is getting really nice for training now, I was in West Chester, PA over the weekend and it was very nice.

Jim

Hello Preston, interesting posts.  I didn't see a reply to the thread "put up or shut up (callin ya'll out), perhaps I missed it.  I am curious about your experiences and the dogs you have worked, trained or titled as you seem to be knowledgeable.  Please share with us.

Jim

I have only had to use extreme measures with my current GSD/Malamute mix; she was about to lunge into a Super Malamute across the owner's property line. I took her down to the pavement, and confined her to the point where she had difficulty in breathing. She was a rescue off of CraigsList: her prior owners were controlled by her, and she had no prior discipline around other dogs. This was an emergency situation -  NO ONE would ever want to have to break up a fight between a Super Malamute and a GSD on a neighbor's property.

She has never displayed any aggressive tendencies toward other canines since this unfortunate instance, but she has a dislike of Shilo Shepherds that will never change.

It took months for the scabs on my knuckles and knees to heal after her last near altercation; I blame her misbehavior on her former owners, as she still has issues whenever the mop and bucket come out to clean the kitchen floor...

Nicolesowner:  What is a Super Malamute?

Preston, maybe you missed my question on this post.  So, I thought I'd re-post it:

Hello Preston, interesting posts.  I didn't see a reply to the thread "put up or shut up (callin ya'll out), perhaps I missed it.  I am curious about your experiences and the dogs you have worked, trained or titled as you seem to be knowledgeable.  Please share with us.

Thanks,

Jim

Pretty interesting post, I like the original poster ,don't see many of the "everyday" posters either.

Started training professionally in '77 at Nanhall kennels under Hall Keyes. Joined USCA in '82. Was TD in the Greater Atlanta club from '86 to '91 then was TD at Chattahoochee club from '91 till '98. Have trained a few dogs to SchH titles (for clients) and was trial helper and training helper for many dogs.  Was Youth TD in OG Emkendorf and Assistant TD for OG Schleswig (both in Germany). The last trial I was a helper in was '05 at OG Rendsberg where Wolfgang Tuchs ('07 WUSV 3rd place winner) and I were the trial helpers and our combined age was over 110 yrs, but Wolfgang is older than I am. The most personal satisfaction in training was coaching and being training helper for a 19 yr old girl to train her 1st workingline GSD to SchH3. Both were extremely naturally talented, so in less than 4 months of protection training they scored 98 points in protection under one of the toughest judges in the region, they went on to place 3rd in the National Youth Championship. A couple of yrs later they were the only team to score "V" points in protection at the Landesauscheidung ( and that year our regional team was 1st place at the BSP). I have been blessed to have the opportunity to be training helper on dogs that competed at National and International levels from the US and dogs in Germany that also were top regional and national competetors ( if you call in the top 10 at the BSP top).