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by alaman on 06 July 2008 - 23:07

Eric WAS TRESSPASSING the day of the trial. He and the D.A. have a letter from the owner of the land so stating. The owner also NEVER gave him written permission to be on the property as Eric claims.

As for YellowRose, what a joke. I had Gary evaluate two dogs and he did not charge a cent. I know of someone else whose dog he evaluated for nothing.

As for Marlene and her problem with Gary, maybe she can tell us more about a certain dog named Blackstar/Tell, his breedings and the AKC.


by hodie on 07 July 2008 - 00:07

 Alaman,

Again, even IF they were trespassing, it could have been handled in a different manner. As for all the other shenanigans others talk about, I don't know. But what is clear is that there are more than a few who have problems with both these guys. Maybe it is all personal vendetta, as it sometimes can be, but there is no excuse to act the way he did that morning, trespassing or not. As for the letter, if it is true, then post it for all to see. At least we will know that the club was trespassing. Still, there was another way to deal with it rather than do what he did. That is just my opinion.


by Schutzhundjokes on 07 July 2008 - 01:07

So hodie, do you think it would have been better that all of these people could have been arrested??  Eric knew he was trespassing, and I am sure he knew Gary was going to show up but  he still took all of these innocent people there so he could get what he wants!  If you know that you are not suppose to be somewhere and someone tells you that your trial will be interrupted would you still take the people and the judge?????  Eric's only agenda was to try to have Gary kicked out of the sport.

As for the supposed papers, Eric is the only one that can produce those....instead he likes to just get on here and bad mouth the organization.  That is what is important to him because he didn't get what he wanted with the tracking fields.  I hope members of the board are looking at all of his comments on these boards and take action because I do not want him representing the organization that I pay dues to................


by Alabamak9 on 07 July 2008 - 01:07

I will answer the question about AKC I sent you a Private email Alman...Blackstar was a dog from my kennel from Tell Dalenberghutte a nice dark sable male he did not make sport except a BH partly because of my skills he could have been titled any how I raised one litter with him when he had his hips done did not like the results and he was neutered at that time and still is doing well and placed in a nice home when I got Zidane. I used Tell Dalenberghutte for stud on several litters when Gary Hanrahan had him and even after he gave him to a lady. I paid 750.00 every time I did a breeding with this dog by check made out to Pam Hanrahan...even when they gave the dog away I still paid them as they never gave her the papers so when my female would come in to heat I would call Pam directly and send the money and the girl who they gave the dog to would help me do the breeding. I filled out the AKC form and sent it to Pam who signed and forward it to AKC. I heard by  grapewine Gary  said I did not pay for breeding to this dog which if he did is indeed another lie under his belt. Every litter I had I have a cancelled check for and every litter he sired AKC has records...so anything else you need to check let me know will be happy to disclose. Marlene Wiggins Alabamak9


by schjoke2 on 07 July 2008 - 02:07

Lets play the same game here. I too was in Gary's club. I have witnessed Gary and his white trash drunk wife talk behind  everyones back who ever trained there. I have witnessed Gary physically and emotionally abuse his wife and kids. The police have been to the Hanrahan house many times for domestic violence. Both the Hanrahan boys abuse steroids in an attempt to get there fathers approval. Michael Hanrahan has been arrested and through rehab many times for steroids. Gary himself approves of the steroid abuse it is his only connection with the boys. Gary himself abuses steroids this is one of the reasons for his anger and steroid rage. Anyone who has trained there has witnessed steroid rage directed at dogs ,his wife, and children. Gary is so abusive to Pam that he sits on the couch drinking beer while she is forced to clean kennels before work everyday while he does nothing but drink,shoot steroids and gamble. Gary's other vice is sports gambling, he bets online on sports games sometimes loosing thousands of dollars.

Gary claims to be a family man.  Gary has cheated on Pam so many times it isn't funny. When Gary was training in Birmingham he use to screw girls at the club field. Gary was screwing Pam's best friend for years. This also happened to be his helpers wife. 

Gary is also a very dishonest businessman. While at his club back when I was a member I use to witness clients coming to buy dogs. He would pretend to be honest showing a fax with all the information on the dog including Gary's price. He would tell the client here I will show you my price and then I will mark it up x%. The only thing the client didn't know which I witnessed is multiple faxes on the same dog with different prices. Gary is also famous for guarantees on dogs. He will guarantee everything at the time of purchase. when you call for him to honor the guarantee you either don't get him on the phone or you get cussed out and threatened. talk to most brokers in Europe they refuse to do business with him he has ripped them all off at one time or another.

Gary claims Eric almost caused him to lose a stadium. First off I believe there is a letter that the executive board of USA has showing where the parks and rec. director stated she gave Eric permission to be on that field prior to an event Eric was not entered in I believe he was helping a club member.. Second Gary has held multiple events on that field since. Would a normal person act this badly regarding something that ALMOST happened. This again is the steroid rage. In fact the parks and recreation director told the USA VP Nathaniel Roque that they had to put a fence  around the field to keep Gary off they had to kick him off on three separate occaisions.

Eric has showed proof that the property manager provided written permission for the events to be held on the tracking fields on Dec. 15. I have seen it with my own eyes. Normal non steroid abusers would not act this way anyway. A normal person in control of their behavior if they believed they were right would call the police. In fact if you watch the video on you tube the only person escorted off the property was Gary Hanrahan. Don't you think if the lies Gary is perpetuating were true the police would have kicked twenty plus people off the property. The trial continued after the police made Mr. Hanrahan leave. The tracks were relaid and the trial continued.

For those who want to listen to more of Mr. Hanrahan's lies there is a simple explanation for why this case is still in criminal court. The judge wanted to convict Mr. Hanrahan, however part of the outcome would have been to force Eisenberg and Hanrahan to stay apart. Hanrahan was hosting the AWDF and Eisenberg needed to compete to qualify for the WUSV. Eisenberg asked the judge not to force him out of the competition. The judge ruled with the right to reinstate. The case has now been


by hodie on 07 July 2008 - 03:07

 Schutzhundjokes,

I have been involved for a long time in law enforcement. And no, no one would have been arrested for trespassing even if they were trespassing. At best, the organizer might have been issued a summons IF the property owner filed a complaint. Get real. Your comments simply don't add up. 

As I stated before, I do not know either of these people but I am no fool. I know people in this sport are petty sometimes and can be mean spirited to say the least. Our organization is sadly filled with people who do not represent the sport or the breed. Fortunately, there are others who are good ambassadors.

But as someone who does not know Hanrahan, I will tell you that I have heard many times that he has a problem, a serious problem as demonstrated over and over again by HIS BEHAVIOR at events. When people like this, if one tenth is true, are part of the organization, then I don't much care for it either, anymore than I care that someone could neglect dogs and kill one and no one in USA says shit about it. I have and continue to speak out about things that are wrong with USA, and one of them is some of the people who behave like A//holes. Perhaps Eric is a jerk too. I cannot say because up until this thread, I never heard about his bad behavior, assuming what is written here is in part true.

Frankly, I don't give a damn whether people hate each other in their private life. I do care about a lack of ethics especially as it shows up in the dealing and breeding of dogs and trials, and I do care about the image of all of us involved with this sport portrayed negatively by people who behave as he did based on this video, and in other instances I have heard about.

I invite anyone with proof of anything to show it here. Just like with Ray Jeffers who lied here and bullied someone whose dog he lost, and who starved clients dogs, did not pay for a dog he bought and killed a dog, he tried and tried and tried to wiggle out, but people posted a document and people came forward who had also had very bad experiences with him. The only reason he is not in a court about these issues is that he has police buddies....

If there is proof the people had permission to use the grounds, it will come out one way or another. If they did not, that too will come out. 

None the less, as I said before, IF they were trespassing, the property owner could easily have called the police and asked for them to be removed. That apparently did not happen. Instead, your buddy showed up and acted in an incomprehensible manner, akin to someone with no control over their emotions. He acted worse than a five year old in driving over people's tracks. I am someone who is unbiased and objective and thankfully have never had to be around this man, nor would I care to be for any reason. Your story does not add up for what it is worth.


by alaman on 07 July 2008 - 04:07

Let Eric post his approval letter signed by the landowner and certificate of insurance. He can't because he has neither but he does have a letter from the landowner saying he was trespassing.

The charges by Eric were to be heard July 2nd. Gary was there, the D.A. was there, the judge was there. Eric was not there and the case was dismissed with prejudice which means it can never be refiled.It's because Eric had no case.

As far as Gary's kids, I've met Patrick and one could not ask for a more level headed, nice kid. Since he plays football for a major university, if he used steriods as alleged, he would have been caught by testing so that is B.S.

As for Pam cleaning the kennels, I'm sure Gary would be surprised at that since I've personally seen him cleaning them in the morning while Pam is inside their home or gone to work.

Looks like to me there are a lot of people jealous of Gary's success in the field are are willing to say anything to try to take him down.

Eric has been asked to produce the signed statement he says the mayor of Gadsden gave him, but like the letter he says he has from the landowner, he has produced neither. He can't.

I've also seen Gary offer to replace a dog that did not meet expectations so I know that is done. I've also seen him take a dog back that was not trained as represented and train the dog before returning it to the buyer.

 

 

 

 


by Bob McKown on 07 July 2008 - 04:07

 

 Jesus Christ people:

                                                    Now it,s draging in wifes,kids,and people not even involved in it... Please for gods sake take a moment and read back thru this thread and think about what you are saying...Some are upset because of a lack of action from USA some are upset because a court of laws lack of action ,some it seems just want to trash people on the net . If Gary has screwed you please learn to live with it. If Eric has screwed you please learn to live with it. I believe the saying Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on me this kinda fits all those who are whinning about getting screwed . 

Please most of you would not have the courage to say these things to the peoples faces you are talking about. The longer you drag this thing out the worst it looks for all of us... your all proving nothing other then how stupid you all are making your selfs look.   


by Rainhaus on 07 July 2008 - 05:07

On a "POSITIVE" note from what I understand.The tracks were set again.Those that were there..How did it go?!!!!!


by Schutzhundjokes on 07 July 2008 - 06:07

Alaman I am completely with you..... I think the people on this forum are people that don't actually work dogs and they have nothing better to do than be disgruntled....

I am not sure who you are but if you were around when any of this was going down we all know that Eric is full of shit.......whatever schjoke2 is talking about is so damn fabricated...... why would the city give one person permission to be on the field???? It just blows my mind that Gary and Pam were the one that set up the contract with the city for the show but they would not even be allowed to be on the field.  But once again someone gave Eric a document stating he was the only person allowed on the field. COME ON...........

Also your impression of the Hanrahan family is pretty far fetched to me......most people in schutzhund have met that family and I sure most opinion are very different I have seen them all together and they are a very loving, close family.....

Whoever you are Schjoke2 someone on here has offended you, for you to just come on here and bash the Hanrahan's like that............so you must be ERIC, THE SECRATARY, MARLENE or one of his pitiful GROUPIES that follow him around at shows.......

 






 


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