HOLY SHIT!!! - Page 5

Im sorry then Nia, Videos were sent to Scarberry & Nate. They were also  to be forwarded. I will send them to you today if you like or are interested. Something tells me youre not??.. But I still have them

Paperwork for the filing was confirmed, and sent to the wrong address.  We ascertained this in our conference call if you remember correctly.  Thats when we were given the proper address was it wasnt forwared to you & your departement.

Some emails 2  follow..

--- On Wed, 7/30/08, Nia Cottrell wrote:

> From: Nia  <MsNia4@aol.com>
> To: bwanke45208@yahoo.com
> Cc: "Michele Scarberry" <mscarberry@earthlink.net>

>As has been explained to you previously, including by
> me personally,
> USA cannot address Helser, or anyone else,  without a
> charge being filed
> with the Board of Inquiry, because this IS America and
> Helser has the
> same right to due process as anyone else.  In our last
> conversation,
> several weeks ago, YOU stated that charges WERE going to be
> filed by
> yourself and a cohort immediately.   That was not done and
> has not been
> done by any other USA member either.  Accordingly,
> USA's established
> procedure to address matters that may be detrimental or
> prejudicial to
> the interests of USA  has not been utilized by any member.
> USA can only
> address issues that its members care enough about to
> properly address
> via the established procedures to do so.   Letters, emails
> and calls
> complaining about perceived issues do not address such
> issues.  Members
> must care enough to file the necessary charge, otherwise
> they choose to
> simply vent, without actually addressing the issue.
> Because USA is a first class organization functioning
> in the United
> States of America, it respects and observes the right to
> due process to

Wed, 30 Jul 2008 4:48 pm, bill  wrote:Your Postition is Cowardly, weak & defines what SchH USA is all about. Money, not ethics.
I paid my SchH USA dues to Helser, and they were never forwarded to USA, as such, Im not a member.

After speaking with you, both Mary and I were discouraged & in utter disbelief at the utter spinelessness of the character of USA.
Helser is a Criminal. Not a one time criminal. His public record shows 84 criminal counts!  You defend & therfore condone this with your inaction.

If thats enough for SchH USA to exercise better judgement & caution I dont know what is. He has since attained more criminal charges while a USA member.  Yet, your postition is one of caution due to possible charges brought on by the likes of Him!??  That was you point, you made it very clear in our 3 way conversation.
You fear a  legal 'backlash', yet his cons continue and the USA does nothing.
Helser has not abided by the by-laws of USA, he has Not held his trial, as he is obligated to.

If I have to seek restitution through the courts against USA, you can bet that I will.  I will also take this higher, and public, and wont be shy in my discussions with others. Your refusal to address this leaves me no other discourse.
Im sickened to have ever been affiliated with Helser, and Im disgusted that SchH USA, does not think it important enough to suspend, condemn, & disassociate with a Criminal like a Tim Helser.

Yours in Disgust,
Bill
 

 

--- On Thu, 7/31/08, Nia Cottrell  wrote:

> From: Nia  <MsNia4@aol.com>
> Subject: Re: FW: OH-Tim Helser

> Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 1:04 AM
> Money is not an issue and NO ONE has ever indicated that it
> was/is. 
> What IS an issue is proper procedure, which you apparently
> refuse to
> understand.
>     Odd, you never mentioned before that you are not even a
> USA member. 
> That perhaps explains why no charges were filed, despite
> your
> representations, and Mary's, that charges were
> being filed
> immediately.  Apparently, she is not a member, either?
>    I assume that I will receive no further correspondence
> from you, as
> such would be pointless.  In any event, please do not
> contact me
> further.
>
> Nia
 

Thursday, July 31, 2008 11:46 AM Bill wrote:
  I paid dues to Helser.
He did not forward them on, obviously, maybe you can take that up with him.

Im assuming it is because Helser is also the Treasurer of his club?
Might be a conflict of interest..
But what do I know? Im not a member.  Do the videos I have of Helser "lie" as well.

For the record, Mary is a one year dues paying member.

There are one half dozen people like me, sickened with Helser, his treatment of our dogs & lighter in the pocket, and after learning what USAs' policies are, sickened with USA, as well.

Helser has Accrued More CRIMINAL Charges, while being a member of your organization.
It should be an honor & priveledge to be a member of USA.

You dont value it as such & allow Criminals with vast records (All Public & verifiable, 84 counts mind you) and they can add on to their criminal records while being a member & besmeerch the reputation of a once great club,  but sadly now a 2nd rate club.

The Only correspondence besides this, will be from my attorney. And other club members. What a joke.

Again yours in disgust,
Bill
 

Nia...I confused our conversation, with that of Michele Scarberry, to whom I provided via email, Helser's Rap Sheet. Youre right, I did not forward his record To you. But to Michele.  But ask and you shall receive.  Here you go. 

This is from the Montgomery County Ohio Database. Under ' County Courts'   (2nd item down), simply  type the name TIMOTHY HELSER.

http://www.mcohio.org//government/clerkofcourts/search_public_record.html

 

 Ugly,

1. You are apparently NOT a member of USA and never were. If, as you say, you paid USA dues to Helser and he never forwarded them, then the bottom line is you are NOT a member. I would, if I were upset about this, absolutely send my membership dues in immediately to USA and become a member and file including that misrepresentation, assuming you have proof that he said monies paid to him were, in part, membership dues to USA. I don't know, but in my club, my members pay club dues to the club and we require them to pay their USA dues on their own and provide PROOF in the form of a membership card to us for our records.

2. You and I both know the procedure for filing charges. That you continue to bitch and do nothing says a lot to me. IF you have a grievance, you MUST follow proper procedure, whether you like it or not. And in your case, yes, there is a statute of limitations so you may have already passed the timeline where you can even file should you BECOME  a member.

3. A quick review, and I mean I looked up one thing, of the link you provided, shows Helser was convicted in 1999 for theft. This is 2008, mid-year. If there are new felonies, then a member should file BOI charges demonstrating he has been charged and convicted and see what the BOI does.

Otherwise, you are out in left field. If you have a beef, then do something realistic and following procedures. If, after you have done so, the BOI or organization does nothing, then that is another issue. But for now, you have no complaint because YOU DID NOTHING about all this and, as far as we all know, neither did anyone else. No, mere allegations are not sufficient.

> From: bill
> To: <mscarberry

 Date: 10/4/2007 3:04:36 PM
> Subject: OH-Tim Helser
>
> Hi
> Your copy of a letter sent to Sara.
>
> I have Attached a 7 Page Criminal
> RAP Sheet... including 14 Charges of Animal Cruelty,
> Dangerous Dog, Theft, Impersonating a Police Officer,
> Burgulary & others, from the Montgomery County Ohio
> Clerk of Courts.
>
> His training methods were terrible, conditions poor, &
> he is an Embarrassment & a Liability to the wonderful
> sport of Schutzhund.  These charges are pending and I
> will update them when available.
>
> I have been soured as a result of this and dont wish
> to see others soured. This is my reason for writing
> you.  I would respectfully ask that Mr Helser be
> Banned Permanently for his misconduct & his criminal
> record involving dogs, boarding & the police.
>
> Sincerely,
> Bill

 

Mr Bill, 
I have received your email notice -   In order to submit formal charges to
the Board of  Inquiry, a fee of  $75 along with your supported evidence
must be sent to the USA secretary Sara Wallick.  Sara will then forward the
charges to the board for review.
You must sight each/any instance in which Mr. Helser's conduct has been/or
is, prejudicial to the interests of USA.

Submitting only a RAP sheet, without  the findings of the court
(specifically on cruelty charges and dangerous dog) 
are not enough for the board - we must be able to view the final result of
those court documents -
Please complete the charges and submit the entire package to Ms. Wallick.
If you require any assistance, Ms.Wallick will be able to advise you of the
necessary documents
Thank you
Michele Scarberry
Chair, USA Board of Inquiry
ph/fax 330-336-6560


 

Oh, c'mon, Bill! That is NOT the ENTIRE correspondence. Post The ENTIRE correspondence, which includes October 2007 and June of this year.

 Ugly,

Sorry, they have told you EXACTLY what you must do to file and YOU DID NOT DO IT? Why? I think you have no legitimate beef then with the organization.

Hodie,

We did file but sent it to the wrong address.  We will file again.. Only to put the burden on USA. Something tells me they wont do a damn thing.   Helser is not a Felon, just  a small time CON.  But he is a CON nonetheless.  Thats what I call 84 counts and a history past & present of deceiving people.  But our conversation with Nia was very Disheartening to say the least. if nothing else, not holding his trial should be grounds enough, not to mention the others, but so be it.

A friend just emailed Nia, I was CC'd.  I wont post without her permission.  But she will not re new her SchH USA membership & is sickened. She was scammed, lied to, dogs have been injured and he has betrayed any trust put in him by club members.

Hodie,
According to the Regionnal Director there are No Screening requirements..see exhibit A

 

Mr. Bill,
Your complaints are of concern and taken into account, however, as Regional
Director, I must follow procedures outlined within the by laws of the
United Schutzhund Clubs of America.  Please be advised  that, "screening"
of potential members is not in accordance with the by laws, and allegations
made without substantiated evidence is not sufficient enough for response.
The provisions allow for members to prefer a formal complaint through the
Board of Inquiry for actions that are prejudicial to the interests of USA,
those charges must be filed with the Secretary, Sara Wallick. (Article VI,
section1, page 7)   Our by laws provide set procedures for which a
group/club may become affiliated with USA.  When this club was approved as
'forming club',  the proper paperwork was complete and in order at the USA
office. (Article V, section1, page 5)

Thank you for taking the time to express your concerns, and making me aware
of these problems.
Mark Scarberry,Teaching Helper
Mid Eastern Regional Director