Stance on Muslims - Page 1

Sue keeps telling lies and being misleading about my position on Muslims stemming from 911 and the War in Iraq.

First, I do not care what religion or group is creating terrorists. If it was Christians (yes I know about the crusades) I would say the same thing about them or any other group.

Second we are at war with terrorists in which most if not all are Muslims with Iraq and Afganistan being the battlefronts so right off the bat I view the people we are fighting as enemies.  The issues I had in the war was that politics was getting involved and the enemy was hiding in known places and our soldiers were not allowed to go after them, if you fight a war keep politics off the battlefield.  The big issue I had with Muslims around the World was that even the peaceful one's kept their silence and did not condemn their fellow Muslims for killing in the name of religion. By keeping silence they were condoning the acts of the terrorists.  If you know your history you realize that the black slaves did not free themselves but it was the actions of free mainly white Americans who stood up and did not tolerate slavery. This was a good thing as no one should be a slave. My feelings and statements were based on that since the so called peaceful Muslims refused to speak out against terrorism then they were part of the problem and yes in a heated post I once made a remark something about killing all the muslims in Iraq that were sheltering and protecting the terrorists. But if you check a later post you will find one that I posted praising the Iraq Muslims who finally stood up and challenged the terrorists.

My position remains unchanged and in no way is a racist or bigoted period.  What I refused to do was find or accept excuses from left wing liberal pacificts who have no backbone such as Sue. If everyone was like that then we would have no freedoms. It takes alot of strong people to keep a country free and luckily Amercia has enough of them. The most funny thing to me is that is Muslims took over the world the left wing types would be the first ones they killed. After me of course because I would never accept that.

I have made these points before but some here seem to want to pick and choose certain posts to mislead people.

If you have a direct question feel free to ask and I will respond.

I would like you to keep just one thing in mind, that one man's freedom fighter is another’s man terrorist. I don't think this forum is appropriate for that kind of topics any way. You fail to understand the Muslims point of view but expect them to understand yours. I am not with you on this one. Please keep in mind that change takes time and there are a lot of Muslims over there and over here that think that US will back off and than they will be on the mercy of those extrimalists. So please don't put people in the same bucket just because they choose not to take sides. And I understand your point of view, as well as the other people that don't agree with yours but the truth is always in between. Best wishes.

After 911 I don't give a damn about their reasons for attacking America nor do I care why their radicial leaders have declared war on America and the Western Civilized World. War is War

Now on the other hand if a Muslim lives next door to me and is a good American and does not support terrorists then I would be the first to defend him if people attached him.

Can you blame them for being scared as all the democrats were calling for America to quit the war and yes I do understand that but I also understand sometimes you have to have courage.

I understand your point of view as well. But war is war and is usually tragic on both ends. Trust me history of war is my hobby, the lines are blured most of the time, too many politicians involved. I have a lot of friends that got either killed or seriousely hurt in Iraq & Afg and I am defenitely not in favor of muslims on this, I don't belive that god wants you to kill other in his name and thats my final say in this matter. I wish that the stability can be bring to that region, please keep in mind that those people been at war for generations, first it was US influnece, than Rossian now they are being influenced by taliban, they feel hoples most likely and afraid of the outcome. Best wishes to all people, brave, not so brave, muslims, and american soldiers for any one that dreams every day of bringing peace and happines to that region.

I have several family members and friends in the military at this time and hope they never have to see war. In fact it would be great if we never had another war ever!  But unfortuntely those are wishful thoughts as evil exists and wars will never cease.

I also love and study history and yes the middle east has always fought but the difference now is with the influx of oil money they can and are spreading their destruction all over the world and now can afford much more powerful weapons. So now it is a very complicated middle east situation.

I hope someday they will enjoy peace.

You have made your hatred of Muslims very clear.  Now you act like a coward and pretend you never said all those disgusting things.  Let me remind you:  Like the time you told us how supposedly Muslims have their 12 year old sons eat christians or soldiers or whatever that nonsense was you spewed.  Don't remember?  When I return I'll be happy to find it for you.  Or the time you called me a "camel fucker" because I defended my relatives.   What's really pitiful is even you must know the only reason you spread such filth is because the truth doesn't support your position.  You are what you hate and you make me sick.   Oh and by the way, I have to sign off now.  We are having a party.  Our Muslim relatives and our Jewish relatives will be in attendance, as will some Christians friends and some Atheist friends.  One thing  everyone has  in common is each person is a  very well educated professional (doctors, lawyers, business owners, etc.).  Some are republicans, some are democrats and a couple are independents.    

sue

you are a poor miserable lying bitch!   And those are you good points!

It is very popular today in America that when you don't have facts backing you up and you are losing the arguement is to call someone a racist and bigot!  Most abused word in America today.

Sorry old liberal sue but will not work on me. Most people on here know that I am not a coward and always defend my beliefs.

What's really funny is that my friends, co - workers and neighbors would die laughing at you calling me racist. Not going to tell you why but will enjoy your stupidity.

 Correct me if I'm wrong but thsi is not about religion, it is about land and governing your own people.  The arab world has demanded over and over that the US leave the middle east and quit army base but US government never leaved Saudi Arabia and that is one part of the problem. All of this for Oil of course...

How would you feel if a foreign country comes as a friend for helping you but then never leave and dictate how you should live in your own world!!  You said it..you would die for your freedom..them too.

I think sometimes by trying to help we just get things worst.

People there( poor middle east countries) are uninformed, uneducated and have charismatic leaders that control a lot of things..We are worlds apart in a lot of ways..That makes it much more difficult to try to understand each point of views. And both side are very religious wich doesn't help at all..

I just hope everybody remembers we are ALL humans...

I'm not taking sides..i'm on the freedom side for all..We need to evolve..