OT-McCain angrily Condemns POW/MIA Families - Page 2

Obviously many besides establishment Republicans who are RINOs in many cases  like Malkin or Coulter. They are also on Fox and other networks which also shows their credibility. Funny how conservatives who tell the truth are extremists but guys like Hussein Obama, Alan Colmes, Wolf Blitzer, Olberman etc. are mainstrean and are defined as such by the  mainstream media. Could it be that some Rinos consider them extremists because they tell the truth about Rinos also?

Interesting fact about Ann Coultergeist,  she is dating Bob Guccionne Jr. Heir to the Penthouse Pornography fortune..

Miss hypocrisy herself.

Get a life people....Take your Unted States political views to a political forum and enjoy yourselves there. 

This is a German Shepherd forum!!!!!

Marsha Seck

Its OT..if you dont like it, dont read it. 

Pretty simple stuff Marsha

Soon enough, once they crash the economy, youll be lucky to feed yourself, let alone your dogs..

alaman, I am an independent - I would have had no hesitation in voting for the McCain of 2000. But he is not the same person. There is nothing maverick about him anymore. I still believe that most of his views are tailored to attracting the base and I fully expect him, if he is elected, to go back to his prior positions.

My primary problem with his views is that he is genuinely militaristic and will get us into another war and since our armed forces are broken, it will necessitate the draft being reintroduced - and I have a son and daughter who would be eligible. I am not willing to vote for anyone who is likely to get us into another unnecessary war.

Most of his views on other subjects - the views he held prior to his need to cave into the base -  are in line with mine. Remember he was opposed to the Bush tax cuts, he was in favor of amnesty for illegals, he was against torture, he was part of the group of fourteen senators who worked for a compromise in the Senate on the issue of judges, he was the author of campaign finance reform, etc. Why do you think the Republican base does not like him or trust him? His selection of Palin was an attempt to be the agent of "change" and to possibly appeal to Hillary voters. His campaign realized that Obama's inexperience was not going to prevent people voting for him - so he decided that he too would embrace the need for "change".

Frankly, I am a major beneficiary of Bush's tax cut but I still think that it is harebrained because of what it has done to the deficit and the impact on the dollar. Bush wanted to be another Reagan - but unlike Reagan he cut taxes and let spending balloon. Reagan had a Democratic congress to deal with and Bush had a Republican congress for the first six years and yet he could not get spending under control.

Listening to right-wingers who are capable of well-reasoned arguments is a pleasure. I love listening to Pat Buchanan and George Will - both very conservative and have views that are often contrary to mine. I used to enjoy listening to Buckley in his heyday. None of these people are RINOs.

People like Malkin and Coulter are a different breed. The former is sophomoric and the latter is an intelligent flame-thrower with an agenda - namely to make money.

alaman, Malkin is a genius compared to this right-wing doofus:

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This is a new low.  Since 1973, the majority of people in this country have seen their real incomes decline, while the wealthiest have since their incomes and wealth skyrocket.  The poor in the US have seen many services cut, so that we compare not with the developing world, but the third world, when it comes to them.  When someone like Obama takes his Harvard Law Degree and turns down a six figure salary to go to the south side of Chicago to help some of the poorest folks around, organizing people to help them get job training and social services, you would think the Right might privately smirk at the futility of such humanitarianism, but I for one never imagined they come right out and sneer in disdain, as if serving one's fellow Americans in this way is somehow less worthy than serving in the military.

I have a lot of respect for the old McCain, especially for his apparent unwillingness to take advantage of his father's admiralty to get out of the prison camp, and for his independence until around 2005 with respect to Bush.  Why did he change if not to secure the base and the nomination?  I am hoping that, if he is elected, we see the old McCain re-emerge.  Further, given where he came from in life, I do not hold it against him that he thinks it admirable that he flew 23 bombing missions over Vietnam -- crashing on the last -- even though I think it sad that we still think it heroic that Americans bombed Vietnamese, often civilians.  But for anyone to suggest that Obama's $100k paycut after law school to organize the poor is less worthy of admiration -- far less worthy apparently -- less worthy even than Palin's first jobs (sports reporter and running an ATV store) -- that person is guilty of the most egregious jingoism and distortion.

Obama did not serve his own personal interests giving up his $150,000/year with a $1 million a year law partner future to work for $25,000 in the ghetto.  You really have to be blinded by hate, or racism, or fear, or pure partisan craziness to say so.  Some people just love to see the world in black and white, and this time the colors are right there for them at the start.  Sadly, as Carter says, this election is likely to be decided by color and not character.

Every gov't administration since the murder of JFK has been illegitimate and run by the elites that did it.  To this day the major mass media is still spouting the lone gunman, lone nut, three shot storyline.  Large well sampled national surveys have shown over 85% of Americans think JFK was not killed by Oswald, but was killed by a conspiracy of multiple gunman, and that at a minimum the gov't covered it up, with well over 50% believing that the gov't did the wetwork itself. 

The same for 9-11.  Approximately 45-50% of new yorkers think it was an inside job, that is, the gov't itself did it, yet the major mass media will not cover their views and regards this thinking as crazy.  Even the FBI wouldn't indict osama bin laden for it because they say their is no evidence he or iraq did it.  The only actual ties that can be shown are to the CIA, DOD and Saudi Arabia, as Michael Moore showed in his film farenheit 9-11.   All US gov't since the JFK murder is a fraud and the major mass media keeps pumping out lies to support this fraud and the numerous other gov't murders and drug and arms dealing since the murder of JFK.

Actually, since 9-11, a national security emergency has been declared and our gov't is being run by "chicanery" from his underground fema/COG bunker.  Chicanery is the one that had all air defense "stand down" on the morning of 9-11.  All congresspersons know that nothing they do matters anymore and know what the COG folks will do if they are challenged. Some got middle of the night "not to worry visits" like g. gordon liddy used to love to make. Under the current declared national emergency, congress is just irrelevant. (Last week potus just renewed this state of ongoing national emergency by PDD, which suspends the constitution and bill of rights--you may want to ask your congressperson why all gov't entities now fly a gold fringed flag which is actually a "maritime flag" rather than a real US flag).  That is why if you are expecting any real and significant change emanating from congress in the next four years, forget it.  They all take orders from the "shadow gov't" and are scared witless to buck them.  The crack of the rifles in dealey plaza still echo in their heads and the gov't anthrax attacks on the dems have gotten this point accross very effectively.  Members of Congress all known that if they "buck the shadow gov't, they will come after you", as they did with Senator Wellstone and Gov. Carnahan.  What is my source for this info?:  retired intel, defense and law enforcement officials who are fed up, folks who tried to do what was right and were threatened and driven into early retirement.

i agree completely with you preston. and the fabricated polarization of the repub & dem parties is just another why to distract us by keeping us fighting amongst ourselves. we are acting as if this were some sort of team sport.  this feuding keeps us from really questioning just what those with the real power are doing. we have to remember we are all in this together and start pressing for the truth and not get lost in these "petty' battles.

MVF,

Extremely well said. I fear, however, this falls upon deaf ears. One cannot speak rationally to the irrational.A friend once suggested,'Never get in a pissing contest with a skunk'. Seems to be be quite a few skunks lurking on many of these related threads.

Preston,very informative.Thank you for the reminder.

Regards,

ravenhawk