I urge all SHOWLINE owners to take alook at this video! - Page 1

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uqYxvlfxvnk its a 10 minute long video. When the video reaches 8 MINUTES and 42 SECONDS they I THINK they show Zamp at crufts! I am very dissapointed after looking at this video. After looking at it i feel my female's hocks are worlds apart from their hocks. Hahahha I dislicked the fact that my female was ' SLIGHTLY cow hocked' these dogs wobble when they move. Long live the GSDS In PAKISTAN! :D

Ill specific and to the point here! Most showlines are bred to run around in circles and look good. I was never a Zamp fan and never will. This video is concrete evidence of Zamp being cow hocked!

Great report. The brain vs small pencil thin headsare what happpend to the show Dobi in the 60's. If you are old enough you can remember when they were at 2 to 3 years of age attacking the owners. They found that the dogs brain's were exploding, no room for growth. The smaller heads were bred because the "show"  thought it looked good to have a small very thin head.

Sad to see what us human and doing to the world's greatest animal! Seriuosly if you watch all 6 parts on youtube, you'll wanna destroy the kennel club! So much for Zamp being the greatest gsd ever! I will never invest in another showline again! I dont consider my female a showline she is a working dog in a showline body!

This is video evidence of how bad the structure of these dogs are becoming. Its only getting worse...when is it going to stop?!  When are these breeders going to realize? These GREAT showline dogs could barely balance and walk because of thier cow hocks.

Thats exactly my point KellyJ. When is this going to stop! These greedy people are ruining the very breed we LOVE! What happened to herioc gsds who werent afraid of anything, what happned to gsds that were like the gsd in the film K9? Working lines are true german shepherds! The creator of German Shpherds must be looking down upon as saying," WTF have you done to my breed!"

What kills me is that the judge insists that those hideous sloppy hock-walkers are the correct conformation. It's no secret that those dogs could NEVER tend a flock. The GSD was bred to go all day at a trot, continuously tending the perimeter of the flock. The showline dogs can barely walk for 10 minutes, much less spend their whole day tending sheep.

I personally own a showline and though he is not as severe as those dogs, he is only slightly cow hocked and his hips are OFA "Good", I know he doesn't have the stamina my working dogs do. Of course, now that he is my old man (10 yrs) he isn't as able to stay up with the others (5 yrs, 2 yrs, & 6 mos.) regardless of bloodlines. He isn't lacking in heart though, he tries his darndest to hang with them. He just has to take a break more often.

Im sure that not all showline dogs have this problem. But the sad thing is that it seems that if the dont have these deformities than they cannot be the champion. This is what people are breeding for. The breed has changed so much for the worse in the last 20 years...imagine the next 10! When all the showline german shepherds sucessfully have cow hocks and roach backs then what will we be breeding for. Looks like in the future they are all gonna need wheelchairs to get around the showring.

That is why I don't own showline :) and every time I run into people they go what a nice shepherd mix lol hahahhaha. I just say thank you and walk away lol.

Hey Jodagirl,

you go ahead and say that to Karl Fueller, who is the most successful breeder of herding dogs in the world and most come from showlines - the dreaded hockwalkers. What a great statement you just made!

And aristian, you are definitely absolutely clueless. Go and watch the video links I posted of Zamp under the "cowhocks" thread. If your idea of ideal confirmation is your own dog which you posted in a separate thread to critique, you need to learn a lot!

Unbelievable!

I just returned from Germany, first watching the hockwalkers running in their ring for hours in the stadium (yet, Jodagirl writes that they do not have the stamina to keep it up 10 minutes). Dead last in the working class males was that East German bred dog Evan von den Grauen vom Monstab with an SG-rating. He is the one who could not keep up and had no stamina! As always, there was absolute quality shown in Aachen, it just blows you away! To all the posters here on this thread: Have you ever been to a Sieger Show in Germany? I have said it on the other thread and I repeat it here: While Zamp vom Thermodos is not the overachiever on the protection field (I might catch some grieve for saying that from back home), he is currently the most beautiful dog in the world, coming as close to the standard as possible!

And since I believe in the total dog, I also went to the BSP last weekend and saw some great performances which sent goose bumps down my spine. More than ever do I believe in the Universal idea which a lot are calling for. But it will only work if Germany starts breeding for it. A great example is Levis von Arlett, a dog I spent some time with in Aachen - a workingline sire and showline mother! The owner of the Levis' sire (who happens to be the judge who judged this year's protection work at the BSP) has him on his homepage as well - www.wannaerhoehen.de/cms/ .