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by keepthefaith on 30 October 2008 - 02:10
RPK, if it were not for my concern about McCain's militancy, I would have actually voted for him. I actually like the guy except for his neo-con views.
He assuredly lost my vote after he selected Sarah Palin for his VP nominee. As far as I am concerned, that act was totally political and irresponsible.
by RatPackKing on 30 October 2008 - 02:10
I see Keepthefaith
So run right into the arms of a MARXIST.....That makes a lot of sense
by wuzzup on 30 October 2008 - 02:10
i know they have so many problems all over the globe. why is it our problem ?let someone else fix the world. we can not take any more they are bankrupting us.killing us send the chinese theres alot of them, korea is a frigging real threat iran, russia what the heck do people not see whats going on,hell the chinese are killing our kids with there waste products .lets draft some of them . open up people take a good look around. the ansers and problems are in your face dont get blind sided by the bull s t
by keepthefaith on 30 October 2008 - 03:10
RPK, no more Marxist than John McCain who espoused exactly the same tax policy that Obama is now doing when he opposed the Bush tax cuts early on.
But then he decided to capitulate to the base on taxes, immigration, kissing up to Jerry Falwell, selecting Sarah Palin, etc. The guy sold his soul to win the base of the Republican party and in the process lost most moderates and independents.
by RatPackKing on 30 October 2008 - 03:10
Just one question Keepthefaith
Does Barack Obama love America? It seems like he feels that America has potential but is a fixer-upper. A little tweak here, a big tweak there and America can be a great country...one the world will finally love and one he can finally delight in. Here's what leads me to this conclusion
The change rhetoric reveals much. America is wrong and must be changed to be correct.
The fairness rhetoric reveals much. America is unfair and must be forced to be fair.
The neighborliness rhetoric reveals much. America is un-neighborly and greedy and needs to be more sharing.
The hope rhetoric reveals much. America, the way it is, is hopeless.
The legislative justice rhetoric reveals much. America is unjust and must be coerced to be just.
Obama seems uneased with America......so do ALL of his past friends, if you have not noticed!
RPK
by Micky D on 30 October 2008 - 03:10
WTF???
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tt2yGzHfy7s
A military draft may be the least of our worries...
"We are on the verge of a global transformation,” said David Rockefeller. “All we need is the right major crisis...”[12]
by Blitzen on 30 October 2008 - 03:10
"Send the Chinese, there are plenty of them" 
. Then who will buy the used up German Shepherds no one else wants?
Ditto, KTF, I thought about voting for McCain too, but Palin was the deal breaker for me.
Uh, if McCain wins and we are still in Iraq, let's say another 2 years or more, where do all the military come from if not a draft? How many times should we ask the same soldiers to go back to Iraq? Then there is that hellhole known as Afghanistan. And didn't the US just do something naughty in Syria today?
by keepthefaith on 30 October 2008 - 03:10
RPK,
I believe that Obama loves America and the fact that someone with his background could actually be elected POTUS is an amazing testament to the greatness of the US. I am truly in awe that this could happen in a country which just 40 years ago was still fighting Jim Crow.
The change rhetoric shows that we are having significant problems and we need to do things differently.
We need to constantly change and adapt to different conditions. Again, it is a mark of the greatness of this country that we can do so - unlike many other countries that are stagnant and resist change.
America is a truly great country but it is not fair in everyway, The fact that 50 million people don't have healthcare coverage is a disgrace - just one example.
The hope rhetoric is precisely what Reagan believed - he saw the US as a beacon of hope
Check this youtube link - is McCain a socialist?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2JPbQOHEkY
by Micky D on 30 October 2008 - 03:10
INVESTOR’S BUSINESS DAILY, 7/31/08
Election ’08: Barack Obama calls it "Universal Voluntary Public Service." We call it a plan for national involuntary servitude. Kennedy asked us what we could do for our country. Obama has ways to make us volunteer.
Sen. Obama’s call to public service is quite different from JFK’s. JFK knew America was already a nation of givers and volunteers, perhaps the most charitable and altruistic nation on Earth. Entities such as the Peace Corps would give Americans an outlet for their kindness and generosity, an opportunity to share what the freest nation on Earth had given them. Obama will force you to share.
Obama’s Orwellian use of the words "universal" and "voluntary" together is an indicator of an antithesis to capitalist society deeply rooted in his socialist associations, education and training. Indeed, in 1996, when he ran for an Illinois state Senate seat, one of his first endorsements was from the Chicago branch of the Democratic Socialists of America.
On the surface, his plan looks just like typical bureaucratic program growth. He wants to expand Americorps to 250,000 slots and double the size of the Peace Corps. He’ll create a Clean Energy Corps to plant trees and otherwise save the Earth. It’s how Obama plans to fill those slots that’s worrisome.
Announcing his plan July 2 at the University of Colorado, he said: "We will ask Americans to serve. We will create new opportunities to serve. And we will direct that service to our most pressing national challenges." He will make us an offer we can’t refuse.
Obama says that as president he will "set a goal for all American middle and high school students to perform 50 hours of service a year, and for all college students to perform 100 hours of service a year." What he doesn’t say is that he’ll make such voluntarism compulsory by attaching strings to federal education dollars. The schools will make the kids volunteer. It’s called plausible deniability.
In a commencement speech at Wesleyan University, Obama advised graduates not to pursue the American dream of success, but to serve others.
"You can take your diploma, walk off this stage and chase only after the big house and the nice suits and all the other things that our money culture says you should," he told the graduates. "But I hope you don’t."
Don’t be another Bill Gates and amass a fortune making people more productive and successful in their daily lives and giving your countrymen a standard of living the world will envy. Exchange your cap and gown for sackcloth and ashes. Leave your possessions behind and come and follow Obama.
by Micky D on 30 October 2008 - 03:10
Con't
"Fulfilling your immediate wants and needs betrays a poverty of ambition," he opined. Shame on us for being selfish and buying that SUV built by an autoworker trying to fulfill his family’s immediate wants and needs.
"Our collective service can shape the destiny of this generation," Obama said. "Individual salvation depends on collective salvation."
We already have a Salvation Army that is truly a volunteer organization. Collective service and salvation is not a classic definition of voluntarism. What Obama has in mind is to turn America into a socialist version of the old Soviet collectives.
And if your idea of service is to join the military and keep others alive and free, forget about it. And never mind about ROTC on campus.
Obama has no place for those who are willing to abandon fame and fortune to lay down their lives for their friends and ours. "At a time of war," Obama says, "we need you to work for peace."
"We left corporate America, which is a lot of what we’re asking young people to do," Obama’s wife, Michelle, told a group of women in Zanesville, Ohio, during the primaries. "Don’t go into corporate America. . . . Become teachers. Work for the community. Be social workers. Be a nurse. Those are the careers we need, and we’re encouraging people to do just that."
Don’t be the engineers who will figure out better ways to extract shale oil from the porous rock that holds it. Figure out how to extract more money from taxpayers’ wallets.
But the Obamas are doing more than "encouraging" or "asking." In a speech in California, Michelle, who has made a small fortune in the "helping industry," said: "Barack Obama will require you to work. He is going to demand that you shed your cynicism. That you come out of your isolation, that you move out of your comfort zone. . . . Barack Obama will never allow you to go back to your lives as usual — uninvolved, uninformed."
But America is not a nation of selfish, self-serving people. Social demographer Arthur Brooks once calculated that Americans volunteered 32% more than Obama’s beloved Germans. We also donate seven times more money to charities and causes than the Germans who gathered in Berlin.
In talking about his national service, Obama, the man who seems to be running for "community organizer in chief," also made this startling statement:
"We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force tha
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