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snajper69

by snajper69 on 18 November 2008 - 11:11

Czech dogs I would say are more suitable for beginers than some ddr :) they bond very good with his handler so you wil get very good bond that is needed for most of the work :)


Brian

by Brian on 18 November 2008 - 14:11

I would not say Czech dogs have pin heads, some do but West German workingline heads are by worse IMO. They look two dimensional from the front with no stops. Their are/were plenty of Czech dogs out there with great heads.

Males
Congo Vikar = Great Head

Norbo Ben Ju = Great Head

Pluto z Pohranicni straze = Great Head

Chuligan z Pohranicni straze = Great Head

Females
Amalka z PS

Tina Jipo-Me

Exa z Esagilu

That is just to name a few off the top of my head I could go on and on.

 


GSDguy08

by GSDguy08 on 18 November 2008 - 15:11

They don't all have pin heads. Mambo z Pohranicni Straze, the sire of the future litter I'm getting a puppy out of.




AgarPhranicniStraze1

by AgarPhranicniStraze1 on 18 November 2008 - 15:11

snajper69- Thank you for the compliments on Agar.  He's defiantely been a dog we've been very proud of and beyond happy with.

blair built gsd- I was probably the most greenest novice or novices when I acquired my czech dog Agar and he and I have done quite well together.  Quite honestly he taught me more than I was able to teach him in the beginning but the key is to have someone experienced help with the training and mentoring.  If you are determined then all things are possible.  Finding the right dog for a novice is key regardless of the lines and the determination to learn how to understand the dog.  It is true the incredible bond you'll establish the more you work with your dog.  In time you both will know what the other is thinking and feeling just in each others body language and expression.

The only thing I don't like about them and I don't know if it's necessarily the czech lines, but the young dogs take longer to mature which can be frustrating if you are not a patient person like myself. lol  I have 1 young dog almost 2 that still has maturing to do but overall is a fantastic dog in all aspects.  Nice civil drives, has that on off switch, strong bite, but he's a knucklehead sometimes because he's still young. lol  He doesn't have the same "look" as my Agar who is his father but I've been "conditioned" early on that the ability of the dog is more important to consider than if he has a big head.  The other male pup I kept out of my first litter has the big bone structure like his dad, big head but it's a bit soon to brag about him too much since he is only 6 months old.  They are super smart and learn fast but that's just a good GSD trait in general I think.

It's all in what you like.  Agar is out of the pohranicni straze lines as is my bitch.  I've been lucky and pleased with these dogs so I am partial to the lines but there are some others that I wouldn't mind having now.  Just not enough room or time for more dogs. lol


RLHAR

by RLHAR on 18 November 2008 - 15:11

This is my girl and I wouldn't say she has a pinhead.  In fact, I don't really like the narrow muzzles on most bitches I know but I love my girl's head and broad muzzle.

 

http://www.pedigreedatabase.com/gsd/pedigree/561866.html


snajper69

by snajper69 on 18 November 2008 - 15:11

Agar do you have pictures of the pups would love to see them.

Very good point, they mature slow, but they are awesome dogs, males tend to be knuckle heads for bit longer than females. :) My female, she is 50/50 ddr/check, is stubborn like a donkey :) (I love that in a dog, I think is the DDR part that makes them so stubborn). What I like the most about males check pups, they have this funny personality they always get in trouble and act like it wasn't them lol :) I don't know. Did any one have similar experience? What I like about females they tend to act very mature at early age but they still like to get in trouble. At first when I had female I though she was a nut case, because for most of the day she acted like 3 year old dog, and than upsss I am a puppy again lol. I told my breeder that I think the dog is scitzo :) lol. When came to work she was serious like no other dog I ever seen, even the trainer was blown away, he said is rare to see that seriousness in a pup when doing foundation work. But other than that I am really sold on a check dogs. I might even go 100% next time around.

Every dog has something to offer, you need to know what you look in a dog first.

 


snajper69

by snajper69 on 18 November 2008 - 15:11

We meant some have small head not all and when comparing to DDR ;) Pin head was a joke :) I call my dog pin head even though she has quite nice head on her ;) but when a puppy it looked like a pin :) BTW Galant has a nice head and some other dogs in your dog Pedigree that is why you seing nice size head on yours :)


missbeeb

by missbeeb on 18 November 2008 - 15:11

GSDguy08,  My interest is really in showlines but Mambo is a very nice dog indeed.  I hope you'll post some piccys when the little darlings arrive?

 


RLHAR

by RLHAR on 18 November 2008 - 15:11

Thank you Snaiper! :)

 I've always been pleased with her head even when she was a puppy.  I just meant that I have seen some showline bitch faces with what I would call a pin muzzle and I don't like that look on a dog.  I do like a little more breadth across the muzzle and I've been very pleased with what Galant has seemed to bring to the Czech lines.


deacon

by deacon on 18 November 2008 - 15:11

>  High drive Czech dogs like high drive Mals are not for the faint of heart or in a lot of instances for first time handlers either. I noticed this several years ago when a lot of agencies began importing dogs from overseas. I had a lot of handlers who could barely control them and were just outright afraid of them, they wasted no time climbing the lead to assert their authority anytime they felt a need to. However their drive to please was equally as great, especially when hunting a quarry.

>  One thing for certain however, once they learned to hunt a man, they were relentless in their task and really enjoyed the fight at the end if necessary!!






 


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