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by funky munky on 23 November 2008 - 07:11
Chissum, your posts are sometimes lengthy, i quite often have to read them twice, but god you do make a helluva lot of sense!!! Not a lot of that about imo. liz
by Chisum on 23 November 2008 - 09:11
After seeing how comely you are I only want you to like me, Liz.
by funky munky on 23 November 2008 - 12:11
CHISSUM, that's just too far who said anything about like. Who knows though, stranger things have happened, given time, we will see. One step at a time!!!!!! liz
by chicki on 23 November 2008 - 15:11
Chisum...Your 100% on the mark. Wish I had your way with words! Love this paragraph!
The upshot? Hochzucht strains largely merged into one and split away from working lines. In the main a softer, friendlier, better-looking dog with a more reliable temperament; one more suited as a companion animal but often lacking the better hardness and stamina appropriate to a versatile, multi-purpose working dogs, or that demanded by more specialized high performance tasks. Not to ignore the bundle of more recent problems inflicted by inbreeding and ill-based fashions. Does this mean that all or even most ‘show-animals’ can’t work, and all show line animals work superbly? - of course not. Other than that, inbreeding problems exist in working lines too, whereas many have difficulty achieving class one survey status.
by missbeeb on 23 November 2008 - 16:11
LOL Comely.... bless, Chisum... are you really.... Mr D'Arcy? LOL
by Christopher Smith on 23 November 2008 - 16:11
Missbeeb wrote: When was it the norm to have manic high drive?
It was never the norm. Nor is it the norm now. I have seen dogs chase down a maniac and work him. But I have never seen a manic high drive dog. Where are these manic dogs? I have seen thousands of dogs trail and I have never seen a maniac. I dozens of pet GSDs a year from all types of lines and have never seen a maniac. Would you please clear this up and tell us a few instances where you saw a dog display manic behavior?
by kitkat3478 on 23 November 2008 - 16:11
A line is a family that is inter-connected by breeding close relatives who all have ancestors in common within the first three generations of each parent's pedigree. A line reproduces family traits such as soundness, health, size, body structure, temperament, eye color, coat type, color patterns, and pigment, or any lack thereof. Inbreeding, or line breeding magnifies what is already in the gene pool. dogs for specific purposes that their physical characteristics take on those of the various breeds. It is only by inbreeding that breeds are developed.
It is natural for herd animals like deer, and horses to inbreed in the wild, as it is for pack animals such as dogs, wolves and coyotes. Feral dogs the world over tend to have the same physical characteristics. It is only when humans become involved in breeding
It is impossible to line breed scatter-bred dogs, but they can be inbred, i.e. breeding littermates is inbreeding, but, as there is no family line behind the sibling parents their offspring are not line-bred. An out-cross is breeding unrelated dogs of the same breed. Continuous out-crossing is called scatter-breeding. Scatter-breeding dogs may produce an outstanding individual, but it's next to impossible for it to reproduce those same fine qualities in its offspring.
To ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, in breeding dogs, German Shepherd in this instance, one must really research the pro's and con's of inbreeding, line breeding and OUTCROSSING your lines.
WHAT EXACTLY is the goal in your breeding program? WHAT KIND OF DOG DO YOU REALLY WANT TO BREED? WHO,,,, IS your buyer of your pup? You produce a litter of 10 pups, Every one with the attributes of your GOAL, HIGH DRIVE, Perfect STRUCTURE, EVERYTHING" YOU", ever wanted in a German Shepherd.
'PROBLEM"
You only have 2-3 people interested in "these qualities", WHERE DO THE OTHER PUPS GO???????"
DOG POUND EVENTUALLY!!!!!
by kitkat3478 on 23 November 2008 - 17:11
SO,?????
by funky munky on 23 November 2008 - 17:11
Missbeeb, it has been a long long time since i was described as "comely" but if Chissum says i'm comely then i must be. He does somtimes make valid points in his posts, pity they are not consistant!! lol. liz
by Christopher Smith on 23 November 2008 - 19:11
Quote: To ACTUALLY KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING, in breeding dogs, German Shepherd in this instance, one must really research the pro's and con's of inbreeding, line breeding and OUTCROSSING your lines.
Christopher writes: No, when you actually know what you’re doing you know that there is no difference between line breeding and inbreeding. What matters are inbreeding coefficients. And once you understand that you will understand that it is imposable to outcross within the GSD breed.
Quote: 'PROBLEM"
You only have 2-3 people interested in "these qualities", WHERE DO THE OTHER PUPS GO???????"
DOG POUND EVENTUALLY!!!!!
They would go the same place every unpopular breed or breeding should go…..UNBORN! If you only have 2-3 people interested in your breedings you should not breed. If your ego and selfishness causes you to still breed I can help you find the problem quite easily. Tonight when you are brushing your teeth, spit into the sink. After you spit into the sink close your eyes. Then stand up straight and tall and face straight ahead. Now open your eyes. And I guarantee you will see a vision of the “problem”.
http://www.netpets.com/dogs/healthspa/demyst.html
So?
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