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by angusmom on 31 December 2008 - 01:12

if it is a tumor, what then? i have no experience with this (and hope i never do), but what can be done? would the dog require expensive surgery/treatment? what would the prognosis be? obviously, this is a generalized question, not all tumors are equal, etc. would the dog have to be pts anyway? i understand the reluctance to do this, but, the risks are so severe. what if he kills one or both of the other dogs? what is acceptable to you? and what about people? what risks would you take on behalf of other people? i had a jack russell with very serious aggression issues put down (as i held him in my arms crying and listening to my husband cry) because he'd bitten others and finally i realized he was too much of a threat to all the little kidlets in my family. he bit me in the face, puncturing my cheek and tearing the area above my lip just after some family  members with a toddler had left. the thought of one of the kids getting bit (anywhere) was something i would not risk. i still feel like shit, but i do know i did the right thing. life isn't always pretty. just like a drunk driver doesn't have the right to risk others with his behavior, you don't have the right to risk the safety of others with a very aggro dog. good luck to you and stay safe.


by Get A Real Dog on 31 December 2008 - 01:12

Ok let's see.........

She has gone to many trainers, who told her they could not help her. Found one that tried and the problem persisted. What does that tell you?

I just put a dog down that I liked very, very much. She was an absolute working machine, but had a physical problem that prevented her from doing the work. This is not a pet, not a dog you can live with if they can't work. Most people simply do not understand this type of dog.

My primary vet would not do it and I let her, other people, and my emotions, interfere with doing what I knew had to be done. What happened? Well she broke out of her kennel, broke through my fence, and jumped the neighbors fence. She was gone for 5 days and ended up at the pound. The whole time I feared she would get hit by a car or possibly bite someone.

I took her out of the pound, no way any dog I own will be left at the pound, paid my fine, spent two days with her, and put her to sleep. I held her and cried on my way out the door.

Maybe I need therapy to figure out why I put the saftey of my dog, other people, and the quality of my dog's life, before my emotions.


by angusmom on 31 December 2008 - 01:12

nobody ever said the right thing was easy. sorry about your dog gard.


by susanandthek9s on 31 December 2008 - 01:12

First, it appears that the dog hasn't actually caused any physical damage (other than scratches and cuts from bumping into things during the tussles) to the OP or her other dogs, and he's clearly capable of doing so if he wants to. Second, the problem may be due to an easily treatable medical issue like hypothyroidism. And third, the dog's problem with family members suddenly started yesterday. So why the haste to execute him? If she were my client, I'd tell her to keep the dog crated, muzzled, and (if necessary) sedated until the medical workup is complete. Then it's time to make some decisions.


4pack

by 4pack on 31 December 2008 - 01:12

"She has gone to many trainers, who told her they could not help her. Found one that tried and the problem persisted. What does that tell you?"

How many dipshits out ther call themselves "trainers"? No cert, no tests taken to prove what they know, just got up one day and decided to call themselves a trainer. No trainer worth his salt tells someone, if they can't do it, it can't be done. There is always someone who knows more. It's up to the owner to do what she feels is right, the dog is her property. Obviously she wants to exhaust all avenues before calling it quits. I just hope she is mentally strong enough to do what needs to be done.

(RIP Piston)


by Get A Real Dog on 31 December 2008 - 02:12

She stated in her original post, the dog has been aggressive since he was 6 months old. She put the dogs back together 2 hrs after the fight.

She said, "we would never put our beloved dog to sleep, not ever."

This absolute statement shows emotional issues and not sound judgement. Just like someone who uses the word "execute"  to putting a dog down, and suggests someone, crate, muzzle, and sedate a dog, put them through medical evaluations, and expect a client to spend $100's if not $1000's of dollars on a dog who has shown signs of instability from the age of 6 months.

I guess you have better judgement than the multitude of trainers who have actually evaluated the dog.

Go ahead Captain Save a Dog. Put on your super hero cape and save all the dogs in the world.

 


jletcher18

by jletcher18 on 31 December 2008 - 02:12

when i saw help aggression, i thought we were going to talk about bringing fight drive out in dog,   oh well,  maybe some other time.

john


by Get A Real Dog on 31 December 2008 - 02:12

It was not Piston.


animules

by animules on 31 December 2008 - 02:12

With a dog like you are describing why the heck would you even consider the tether method????????  You admit you had to run to the safety of the bedroom once and made  a muzzle from a pillow case.  And you are tethering yourself to this dog?  Sorry, that scares the hell out of me.  And yes I do understand the concept and basic reason behind it.

I'm with GARD in this one.   For the safety of all,  have Drake put to sleep.  He is a timebomb and who knows when he will go off.  It is NOT worth the risk to you, your family, or others.  I'm sorry.  JMHO


snajper69

by snajper69 on 31 December 2008 - 02:12

All trainers are not the same.....

If dog can't be fixed put him to sleep.....

If you feel you can't handle dog place him with someone that can.....

Stop treating your dog as a child!!!!! They are not kids you puting other people in a danger because you don't have the balls to make the hard decision, this is not something that responsible owners do!!!!! IMO.

But I would not put a dog to sleep base on the fact she presented, because the main thing she has no control over her dogs so the way I see it the issue might be crated by her and not the dog. How many of you think that a trainer can fix a dog? She took her to one or two classes and though it would be done. Get a Real dog you as a traine I am sure you understand the commitment that is required when fixing any issue in a dog. It sounds like she is not steping up to the plate. But I might be wrong, like I said you can't evaluate a dog based on her description, is just my gut feeling that it is her not the dog. WHY? because I see the kind of pet owners every day, they should not be allowed to have GSD, Dobe's, or Roties etc. because they have no idea how to deal with them. The only thing they know about their dogs comes from holywood movie :)






 


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