Kraftwerk / Wayne Curry - Page 7

DoubleX,


You did not mention where you are located. If you are in the PNW, PLEASE, when you are ready to share your life with another gsd, go to some of the local schutzhund clubs and ask for breeder recommendations. One of the things that shocked me when I first got involved was how the schutzhund folks out here have NO qualms telling you who to avoid and why. They will also point out to you that none of the club dogs come from certain breeders...and why. Once you have gone to 3-4 clubs and heard the same thing, and seen that no one in the region seems to work dogs from particular local breeders, well...

Losing a dog at any age is hard - but a young one is devastating. I do remember your posts by the way - and I am just so sorry that you did not have a better outcome for your boy. Thank you for doing your very best for him - he knew he was loved, and even though his life was short, he was special, and brought something unique into your lives. My thoughts and prayers are with you at this very sad time.......

 Parvo is a pain in the ass. It doesn't go away, it just stays in the ground. Once parvo has been in an area, it will come back over and over again. It is a miserable disease. 

I worked at a kennel a long time ago that someone dropped off their parvo infested dog (read threw over the fence) late one night. I came to work and there was that metalic shit smell everywhere, and when I went in the back, this poor dog was in the main kennel area and had shit all over.

He was put down, and we torched the area that he had shit in, and sprayed the area with straight bleach. All owners were notified of this event and it was a nightmare. There were still reoccurences after I left. This was a well kept kennel.

I don't know this wayne guy, but once parvo is there, it is there to stay.

DoubleX,

See my private post to you and let me know if you are interested in what I offered.

I am so sorry for your loss and the heartbreak you've been going through for so long. I am also sorry to see any kennel grow to the point that the owner apparently cannot manage it properly. Although I never knew him well or visited his esptablishment, back in the 90's I remember admiring the person in question and the dogs he imported and bred, even despite the fact that he had nothing nice to say about me! (quite the contrary in fact...) Its a shame for the dogs and the buyers when a kennel/import service gets to the point where its strictly a business.

For all the crap we sometimes have to wade through to get to anything valuable, and the serious accusations we have to weigh and consider before forming our own opinions, if it weren't for this board most of us would never know what really lies behind some of those big, fancy, impressive websites and magazine ads.

Where the climate doesn't feature a good freeze in the winter Parvo, shed in a dog's stool long after recovery, (or death) can remain in the soil for at least three years. I had a couple pups from a litter contract it in CA in the 80's after a visit to the vet for shots. Luckily the pups were in a converted horse stall with rubber mat flooring. I santized the hell out of that stall and everything they or I came into contact with, but I was still nervous, never let a young dog in that stall for years. The two pups recovered completely, the illness having been caught early. They were adopted and nursed back to full health quickly by friends of my vet, left for there new homes straight from his clinic, went on to lead super lives, but never allowed to set foot on my property again.

From then on I have given my own vaccinations, safe at home, and am reluctant to take a pup with less than 2 vaccinations to a vet for any reason. When I take them in for Health Certificates for shipping I interogate the staff about dogs with parvo (or any infectious disease) having been in the building recently, never let them touch the floor or the ground outside, and insist that the exam table is santized in my presence before the pup touches it. I ask buyers to wait at least a couple of days before taking their pup to a vet for examination so if it gets sick with an infectious disease later there's no question about it having been sick when it left here. So far, some 30 litters later, no pups have been reported ill with infectious disease in their lives. Some people would chide me for delivering pups without vet examinations, but I think the risks over-ride the benefits in that practice, still paranoid after that early experience.

SS

Shelley wrote: "Where the climate doesn't feature a good freeze in the winter Parvo, shed in a dog's stool long after recovery, (or death) can remain in the soil for at least three years. "

That's incorrect, Shelley, but a common misconception.  Freezing temps actually PRESERVE parvo virus.  It does not remain in soil for 3 years, but it's generally believed it can remain active for 6 months or so (more or less depending on conditions) outdoors.  The reason it may appear to remain active longer than 6 months or so is because parvo is virtually ubiquitous in the environment and no doubt is being reintroduced to some extent on shoes, dog paws, etc. all the time.  Immune adults can carry it onto the property without getting sick and there is a potential continous stream of fresh virus being reintroduced via fomites etc as well. 

This article is easy to read and for the most part correct:  http://www.marvistavet.com/html/the_parvo_virus_in_the_environ.html . 

Regards,
Diane Seaman

Diane,

I was about to correct the longevity and environmental conditions for parvo survivability. Thanks for setting the record straight. Hope all is well with you.

Don't know about the parvo thing, but after a post last week about a liver pup for sale on Kraftwerk, I emailed Mr. Curry and asked him why he was advertising a liver puppy as a 'light red sable', when it was obviously a liver, and as such, a faulty color.  I told him that he should disclose that fact on the advertisement, and that perhaps he should lower the price on the dog, since it seemed incorrect to charge the same for a pup with a glaring fault as for a dog without it.  He didn't respond to me, but the dog was removed from the page fairly quickly. 

Crys

Glaring dishonesty is one thing I have no tolerance for, and though there are no doubt those who have had great luck with this place, I'd never call him. 

To the person who removed Larus von Batu as sire for my beloved Xanto just shortly after I posted about his death, shame on you.  I have no idea what your point was.

Sadly, we can not bring Xanto back.  I hope you are kinder to your own dogs.