Show and Working Lines, 2 separate breeds - Page 11

The notion that working dogs cannot be house dogs is complete bunk, hog wash, and nonsense. The majority of dogs at our club are house dogs, and no they are not slugs. I handle primarily malinois, who are house dogs, and have alot of friends who compete with malinois and their dogs are also house dogs.

Kenneling is a very old school approach to dog training, which still works very well depending upon how you train. trainers use to have to kennel their dogs due to the fact that they needed as much dog as possible (they would make their dogs crazey and never teach them to shut it off) to make it through the training. training was very crude, but effective, and at the time was all that was known. If you were to go around to many of the "new age" trainers you will find that they keep their dogs in the house alot more.

Working line dogs are bred for temperment and drives above all else. Show lines are bred for structure and color above all else. If you wanted a house dog, would you not want a dog that was selected for temperment first? Most working line dogs make good house dogs if communication is clear between handler and dog (there are always exceptions to this rule).

VonKohlenberg,

I absolutely agree!  It is all about temperament.  Some of the most high-drive, powerful dogs can be perfectly fine in the house...IF the temperament is balanced and stable.  The majority of the working line and Mal dogs at my club are house-dogs, too.   An unstable dog is, or should be, undesirable as a pet for any family.  It is simply an accident, or tragedy, waiting to happen.

btw--Are you in Australia?  The "name" seems familiar.

Hope he is... he'll be able to educate you on the ban they suffered... for many years... that you knew nothing about... no, don't thank me... my pleasure!

Nice post, VonKohlenBerg, I agree with you 100%.  The myth that the working dog cannot be a house dog or is in some way too crazy is just a  myth.  And I agree,  there are times when kenneling is a good idea in order to bring as much dog as you can to the training field, rarely are they kenneled because they are too crazy to be in the house.   They are very excited to work.

Missbeeb, you of course are correct about the ban, in 1929, the australian government placed a ban on further imports and introduced draconian legislation about castrating dogs and spaying bitches, the ban was not lifted until 5 march 1974. Taken from Malcom b. willis's book, a genetic history of the breed , but who knows maybe he is a liar too. liz

oh wow it reads too.

"It" does... and it's bred some lovely dogs that worked, albeit with other owners!  How about that?  Working and correctly constructed... new one for you?

Yes one of my many many talents is reading, you should try it sometime you might learn something, by the way is that your dog in your avatar? liz

I saw 2 Nice GSDs in this KNPV trial, I really like how they work.  Also Nice Bark/Hold, but from the rear.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VNobIIvw-g&feature=related 

Notice this Dutchie, (near the end with his 'family') a cat and little girl.   Nice well balanced dog. Preceisly what Im looking for.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8GwzsNbZkU 

LOL Uglydog, I wouldn't want Faruk coming at me.

On the first video, some of the dogs went round the back of the helper, is this normal / allowed?