Inges vom Rauber Hotzenplotz attacks new owner

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by MVF on 20 February 2009 - 18:02

When one wolf is attacked by another (same pack), other wolves often join in and attack the wolf being attacked. Dogs may not be as bright and protective as we'd like to believe -- protection games may work so well in general because they know who the game rules say they should bite.

by Mystere on 20 February 2009 - 18:02

Inges has two of my favorite dogs behind him, Bandit and Marc. I didn't see anything that would indicate a temperment or nerve issue in the pedigree. In fact, i like it!! WHO owns this dog--I might want to breed to him.

by Two Moons on 20 February 2009 - 18:02

LOL....
You wanna breed to him because he bit his owner.
I believe I'd want to see the dog first hand before making up my mind.
Much to consider besides who the dog bit.

by yahoo on 20 February 2009 - 18:02

moons, this dog knows who the bad guy is.
he has been working him with the decoy in a full suit for months.

this dog is just too STRONG for this guy, and i really don't think he respects him either.
he takes him out on sunday to do BITEWORK then kennels him the rest of the week.
no bonding
so he got what he deserved. i think the dog was just waiting for the right moment :)))
the dog is on nancy brewers site under stud dogs.
tom trainor owned him.

by Two Moons on 20 February 2009 - 19:02

All I can say is this kind of conditioning does not teach the dog to know the difference.
Maybe the dog did bite the bad guy, who knows. Ask the dog.
You may be right, the dog saw an opening and took his shot.

by Elkoorr on 20 February 2009 - 19:02

Something is missing from this story. If the owner required 80 stitches or so (it really doesnt matter), then this was not an issue of mistaken identity, or who moved. That dog was after the owner to begin with. It just needed a situation that played into its frustration.

Mistaken identity can happen, but after the first bite the dog should have realized its mistake, especially a SCHH3. That many stitches and it was not just one bite, but there must have been a rebite, and another, and another.......

Something is terribly wrong with the relationship between dog and handler. What happened that day before this terrible incident?

by Mystere on 20 February 2009 - 19:02

Two Moons,

I am going to assume that you are just joking, as that is not what I said. I referenced, specifically, the PEDIGREE, and indicated a desire to know who to contact about him, because I MIGHT want to breed to him, interest being generated by the PEDIGREE.

If I am overreacting, I apologize. I have just had far too much of certain males (not you) on this forum trying to put words in my mouth.

by Two Moons on 20 February 2009 - 19:02

Its alright,
Its easy to misunderstand meanings from a few printed words.
I still would want to see any dog I planned on breeding to just because thats me.
Pedigree or not.
I meant nothing, you meant nothing, we're good.

by yahoo on 20 February 2009 - 19:02

elkoor, i think you are the only one who truely gets my point.
being this dog wanted this guy for a long time.
and yes the dog rebit i think 3 times!!!
the dog did not go after the bad guy and miss he went straight for the owner.
i have know idea what could have happen before the incedent
this owner is new to shepherds, wanted a BAD dog (when he bought Inges) and he got it.
not saying Inges is bad, just in the wrong hands

by july9000 on 20 February 2009 - 19:02

Elkoor says: Something is missing from this story. If the owner required 80 stitches or so (it really doesnt matter), then this was not an issue of mistaken identity, or who moved.

I agree..a real sport dog when mistaking a decoy or bites it's owner usually realise it and you don't need 80 stitches to close the wound!!

This is a lot of defense drive..and not enough prey drive..IMO..Who know how the dog was trained in the first place..maybe they have put too much emphasis on defense before the prey drive was strong enough..or he simply does not have a lot of prey drive..

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