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by Christopher Smith on 04 April 2009 - 17:04

For the last time, Schutzhund is NOT work! It's a sport and the dogs and their trainers and handlers train for "sport" as a team.

 

I think you have a very human centric view of schutzhund. Yes its sport for the human, but it can still be work from the dog’s perspective. The dog knows nothing of points, trophies or glory. He does it for the same reason he does any other type of work because of drive, training and a will to please. So from the dog’s point of view it is work. Now I think it is open for debate what type of work is appropriate for the evaluation of a breeding GSD, but to declare that it is not work is a bit myopic in my opinion.


by Adi Ibrahimbegovic on 05 April 2009 - 00:04

For the last time, Schutzhund is NOT work! It's a sport and the dogs and their trainers and handlers train for "sport" as a team.

Let's see, I agree with you probably more than you realize, but maybe something got lost in translationor my writingstyle struckyou as closeminded. Either way,it doesn't matter. Work (again -  TO ME),is something that dog trains for and does willingly that helps humans. Therefore, besides a living being, a dog is a partner whose skills we utilize and they are of value to us.

I think you have a very human centric view of schutzhund. - I am human, or so I believe. Not a dog, so I tend to see things from the human perspective.

Yes its sport for the human, but it can still be work from the dog’s perspective. - Not disagreeing here. For some dogs it is a matter of life and death (in their mind).For some it's a game, for some it's a sport, hard to tell, they can't speak and express themselves with words very well.

The dog knows nothing of points, trophies or glory. - Agree. Neither do I.

He does it for the same reason he does any other type of work because of drive, training and a will to please. - Again, I agree. Since our noses can't sniff explosives or run with the sheep and their noses and legs can, we use that drive, training and will to please to aid us and work for us. In return we give them shelter,food, water, love, respect and a place int he pack. It's a symbiotic relationship.

So from the dog’s point of view it is work. - See above.

Now I think it is open for debate what type of work is appropriate for the evaluation of a breeding GSD, but to declare that it is not work is a bit myopic in my opinion.
- It's training, for sport. I would much rather it becomes a breed evaluation again, but, it became a sport, for points, ego, money, bragging rights, prestige and glory. Sometimes, it is genuinely for the love of the breed and the dog. 



by beetree on 06 April 2009 - 15:04

Gustav, I think you meant, me? LOL That is twice now I've been confused with the lovely Missbeeb! I'm getting an identity crisis, today of all days, my birthday! And don't any of you worry, there is a 99.9% chance that I will never breed dogs, only buy them.

Mystere

by Mystere on 09 April 2009 - 23:04

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