(OT) American Soldier Honored - Page 10

OK, first off......

He has a broad and varied background as a US Army Combat Nurse during Operation Iraqi Freedom,….

There is no such MOS in the Army as a Combat Nurse.  There is an LPN, Licensed Practical Nurse, and an RN, Registered Nurse.  The next thing, nurses serve in CSH's and FST's.  And, as he was assigned to the 21st CSH out of Ft Hood, there have been several instances where awards were given that shouldn't have been.  Such as the blanket CMB's given to the Ft Hood Medical personnel.  Which, by the way, according to regulation, the only way to EARN this award is by being ASSIGNED to a COMBAT ARMS unit and doing your job under DIRECT FIRE.  The true medical personnel who earned these had to show proof of casualties, names of operation, grid coordinates, etc.  And you do not do that when you are an LPN assigned to a Combat SUPPORT Hospital.  Also, if he was soooooo experienced in demolitions, the Army would have utilized him for that, not put him through school as a Jr Enlisted nurse.

Torin Wolf is quite a find. He is the only demolition specialist in the entire world who believes that the Twin Towers were brought down by explosives. I occasionally host a public access show called 'Hardfire' that airs in New York City and surrounding areas. Over the past year, we have staged debates pitting 9/11 fantasists such as Jim Fetzer and the Loose Change boys against the extraordinarily well-informed debunker Mark Roberts. Would Mr. Wolf care to appear on the show and explain to us what everyone else is missing?
 

If you are going to cut and paste....cut and paste more than what you think we will not be able to find.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/transcripts/3106_combatdo.html

Here is the link for the story on Torin Wulf.  After 3 years of service and then deploying to Iraq in 2003, he is a PFC. An E-3.  You get an automatic promotion to E-4 after 24 months unless you cannot pass a PT test or are overweight.

Check your facts before you put peoples names down.

Raymond No i've never had to go overseas no i've never been in the military but I serve my country in other ways. I am a Firefighter I've run into burning buildings i've been shot at, I've almost ran over multiple times trying to save someone. I've been there at accidents pulling the lifeless body of a teenager from the wreckage. The childs mother standing behind you crying her eyes out begging me to save her kid but knowing theres nothing I can do that her child is dead.  I've held peoples hands and looked into their eyes as they've taken their last breath doing everything I can to save them. You try telling a family that their loved one died in a house fire that was started by something stupid. I know what it's like to miss out on holidays and birthdays because I have to work. But you know what thats my job. So Just because I've never served in the military doesn't mean I don't serve and do my part. Unless you've seen what I've seen and done what I've done then don't sit there and tell me to shut my mouth.

 What exactly DID you sacrifice?  You know to be honest I really feel sorry for you. You are such an angry person.  Maybe if you could find some happines in your life then you wouldn't be so mad all the time

Jessie, Thank you for the job you do.  Our firefighters and police officers are some of the most underappreciated people in our society.

Raymond, someone has to bandage wounds and keep our servicemen and women well cared for.  You can try all you want to put my job down, but I am proud of what I have done and what I do now. 

I agree with you also Jessie.  I don't think he does know what it's like to hold the hand of a family when their son/daughter/mom/dad/friend died.  It's something powerful that you will live with for the rest of your life.

And Raymond, what exactly did you do when you "served"? You have no respect for medical so it couldn't have been Combat Arms or anything closely related.

Ugly Dog, I have another thing for you.  Taken right off of Torin's My Space page:

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I am a veteran of Operation Iraqi Freedom and was in one of the first units to occupy Iraq in 2003 (OIF I). I was a Combat Nurse in the 21st Combat Support Hospital (21st CaSH) in Mosul , Iraq . For those who are familiar with the military, my MOS was 91WM6. I saw combat on multiple occasions (earning the Bronze Star) and returned fire with confirmed kills (earning the V device for Valor). I also earned the Combat Medic Badge for providing medical care during combat conditions. I signed my paperwork to enter the military on 9/11/2000 (tell me someone didn’t have a hand in that!) at the age of 30.

Before entering the military, I had had 12 years of experience as a hazardous materials/demolition contractor and consultant. I had also gotten 5 years of experience as a certified structural steel welder. I didn’t join the military to get away from my parents or get money for college. Not that there is anything wrong with those reasons, but I joined to serve my country. I have fought, bled, and literally killed for my country. I defy anyone to look me in the eye and say that I am in any way unpatriotic. I also challenge anyone to tell me that I don’t have significant experience in construction, demolition, or hazardous materials. All of this leads to why I am convinced that 9/11 was an inside job.

Just a little info, yes 21st CSH went up in 2003.  They were in Balad for the year.  I actually happen to personally know half of the personnel in the story I sent on the other post.

Now, let's do the math.  Torin is 39 y/o according to his myspace page.  He joined the army in 2000. He would have been 30.  He had 12 years as a demolitions expert, 18 y/o.  5 years as a welder, 13 y/o.  Do you not see the issue.

Also, when you have truly seen combat and have had to kill someone with your own weapon, you do not brag about it on myspace.

Check your info and make sure you don't try to feed this BS to military members.

www.youtube.com/watch

I have the utmost respect for combat medical personnel! What I hate are those people who use what they have done as a trumpet to announce their so called conclusions!Maggie,( Raymond is one of those idiots that wants to complain but never do anything. He has no idea and talking to him won't change anything. Only if it happens to him personally will he wake up and realize anything. It's ignorant people like him who yell at the troops and protest at the funerals).And jag girl is this previous statement one meant for a veteran who served his country? all you people speak out of both sides of your mouth. Jag girl's first post was to trumpet her service and that of her husband then says one should not brag about what they have done for their country!And pull out the red carpet for all the firefighters! My brother-in law is one and went all the way to CHIEF. You people are amature's ! Now to equate jessse' service as a firfighter (who I admire enoumously and worship at your feet) To serving in harms way can not be reconciled! Truely a firefighter is exposed to dangers on an alarm by alarm basis but combat is 24-7 perpetually. How often is one fireman killed by his own firetruck? Or blown up while sleeping? Or suffered the debilitating effects of chemical attacks? No I admire and applaude you jesse for your service1 Do not tell me I am stupid because I feel that many young americans were offered as a sacrifice for nothing in vietnam! You were not there so can your shit! Jag girl I applaude your service and thant of your husband and for a vets sake show the same amount of decency to one that you ask for yourself! I do not protest funerals!!  The plain and simple fact is that Iraq poses not strategic threat to the security of america! Afganistan is the same! These two countries are strategically placed in oils.backyard and the oil men want fast and easy access to it for profitt! Now please remember that I am a player and not a fan! so you wish to know where I served and what I didi? Now wouldn't that be bragging like yous mentioned before? hypocrites. I was drafted so that should give you a clue!

Raymond First off don't put words in my mouth Not once did I call you stupid! 
I didn't go out and boast about what i've done till you said  "Jesse when you serve and sacrifice as I have then you can let your fat mouth run! Untill then screw you!!" I wasn't going to say anything about it either. Am I proud of what I do not all the time and when I am proud I don't go and brag about it. You would be surprised how many firefighters have a LODD. I don;'t expect praise or someone to worship me. I just want to know at the end of the day I did everything I could to help a person. Personally I wouldn't want you worshiping at my feet. You know what your right we are hypocrites but guess what  so are you. No ones perfect.

 Just so you know your not the only one who was drafted. I along with thousands of other people had family that was drafted and served their time overseas. I can't say I've ever met a Vet that was happy to go fight in a war nor have I ever met one that is as angred as you. I hope to God that when you die someone has something nice to say about you and you get a funeral like the soldier in the video did. You say you went over and fought for nothing but in reality every war that was fought on forgin soil is a war not fought on US soil.

      I have nothing but sympathy for you. I'll pray for you.

Nope, it's not bragging at all.  All I did was ask what your job was.  Didn't even ask your unit or your branch of service.  And I never told you what I did over there nor will I.  My husband is the only one that truly knows as I am the one that truly knows about him too because we were both over there at the same time, with the same brigade, in different batts.  I happen to be extremely proud of the sacrifices my entire family has made as well as the job that I do in the Army.  You, in several of your posts, repeatedly attempted to put me and what I do down.

Oh jaggirl just what do you fight with ?a tube of lipstick and a law book?

You think because you are some freaking deadbeat nurse probably not on the front lines or UNDER FIRE you are something special!

Jag girl stick to bandaging wounds, It is all you are good for!

And these comments were made by a veteran who has support for the soldiers to another veteran?  I do actually like the lipstick one.  Sexist comments never get old with me and they make me laugh.

Instant Messages To Israel Warned Of WTC Attack

By Brian McWilliams,
27 Sep 2001, Washington Post


Officials at instant-messaging firm Odigo confirmed today that two employees received text messages warning of an attack on the World Trade Center two hours before terrorists crashed planes into the New York landmarks.
Citing a pending investigation by law enforcement, the company declined to reveal the exact contents of the message or to identify the sender.

But Alex Diamandis, vice president of sales and marketing, confirmed that workers in Odigo's research and development and international sales office in Israel received a warning from another Odigo user approximately two hours prior to the first attack.

Diamandis said the sender of the instant message was not personally known to the Odigo employees. Even though the company usually protects the privacy of users, the employees recorded the Internet protocol address of the message's sender to facilitate his or her identification.

Soon after the terrorist attacks on New York, the Odigo employees notified their management, who contacted Israeli security services. In turn, the FBI was informed of the instant message warning. FBI officials were not immediately available for comment today.

The Odigo service includes a feature called People Finder that allows users to seek out and contact others based on certain interests or demographics. Diamandis said it was possible that the attack warning was broadcast to other Odigo members, but the company has not received reports of other recipients of the message.

In addition to operating its own messaging service network, Odigo has licensed its technology to over 100 service providers, portals, wireless carriers, and corporations, according to the company.'