Actually, Lorenzo was basically respected in the dog community, UNTIL his apparent melt-down, as indicated by other posters who had dealt with him as a breeder, among other things. He apparently went off the deep end suddenly, then disappeared. He was known on this board for his on-going war of words with Helser.

Bill, STFU. Your a POS.
How about some HR3200 4 U ? 
LMAO

Michael49
Let me ask you what do you think you will accheive by tracing  back to the original owner -breeder of these two unfortuate Dogs and who owned them along the way in there lives, You cannot do a thing about it and it will do nothing
Better use your time to find out the one person or persons who really negected these dogs to cause the deplorable state they were in, They are the ones who need bringing to book But even then how are you going to get proof of there neglect of these dogs the only way you or anyone else can recompense the ones involved if they are found is by facing them yourself and doing it that way, going through the courts will not do anything
If you are not prepared to do that then forget it for talk means nothing
Steve

Actually this is over already....just a few trying to keep this nonsense going!

ron

steve1, Let me start by saying that I have read many of your posts, and find you to be of sound mind and good heart. Based on my evaluation of you I'll answer your question. The original intent of this thread was to establish a chain of ownership and or possesion of these dogs,starting at the first link if necessary. My motive for this is to determine,[if possible] the last person in possesion and the person responsible for the condition of the dogs. This has been accomplished to some degree, I have hope that the truth will eventually come to light. I have no grand  illusions about punishment, exposure is my only purpose.


judron55, This thread will never die as long as someone sees fit to post, so thank you for helping to keep it alive
                                                                                                                                   

and the exposure it's had isn't enough:-) Dogs are gone...owner is known.....crack addict is gone.....Lorenzo is gone.....what else is needed! Seems like a lot of misinformation and teeth bearing:-)

ron

'GSD Danny' is Helser.

Tim co owned a dog with a guy named Mitch, and Mitch sometimes posted using that account.

But I can tell Helsers incoherent writing, sentence verb conjugation, or lack thereof.
A Pound of flesh is right.

I hope these dogs and this issue is dealt with by the proper authorities. They deserved better.
Nor do I buy the scam, I mean story.
It was nonsense from the get go...a play on the strings.  Classic Tim H.

I thought the same thing!   Find a Bounty Hunter...there are some out there...go find Lorenzo.

YR

I for one Y.R would love the thought of Tracking him down but it costs a lot of money anyone who can afford it will have an interesting time doing it then perhaps he can be bought to book over his terrible wrongs towards these Dogs and probably others as well I really hope the ones who did this get there just rewards or suffer a nasty fate themselves for they cannot be classed as a human being
Steve