USA bylaw change - Page 4

Most USA SchH clubs NEED other breeds.  Why be exclusive?  That makes no sense.

In any area there are going to be SchH fans who want to get together and train. 

I think it's great that my USA club has breeds other than GSD.  These people and their dogs bring a lot of knowledge, help, and just plain fun to our club.  We are a more vibrant club, with more helpers, more friends, more learning, than if we were just the few GSD people.  We all learn from each other and everyone benefits from seeing other breeds work.   It works to advantage of USA because these people with other breeds than GSD still join USA so they can belong to our club.  But not being narrow-minded, that's ok - they certainly appreciate the GSD even if it's not their breed, and they certainly benefit from training articles in the magazine.  All good stuff. 

Thanks, Kim, for the information. 

All this is moot.... next year is an election year

Anyone willing to standup and go for President? After all its easy to quit... why not stand up and make yourself count?

WDA accepts all breeds also for trial up to the national event for the World team qualifications because that is for the WUSV (GSD) only.

With the advent of AKC ok'ing the SchH - there is now the ability to utilize the AKC priviledge of sending and FCI team to that world championship which of course would be all breeds also. 

So it is highly advantageous for all breeds to belong to a WDA club also for training.  I agree with Tess that everyone with any breed brings something:  help, comraderie, experience and fun to training.  SchH is a small group of people, all need to support whatever club is available to them.  Hopefully there will be more WDA clubs available so people can choose.  Until now there was never a real need to have more WDA clubs because you could belong anywhere, but with the USA membership exclusion/restriction, more WDA clubs need to be created or just convert so people have freedom of choice.    If people are happy with membership restriction/exclusion, then all they have to do is nothing, remain the same.

USA has the Working Dog Championships open to all breeds, and AWDF has a National Championship open to all breeds providing you belong to one of the member clubs like USA, DVG etc..  Another reason I'll stick with USA and DVG. 

See you guys later, I'm off for a busy training weekend.  Hope everyone else's weekend is as fun as mine will be.

Bob - when its part of the rules, bylaws etc. There is an issue.  If USA would adopt a Laissez-faire attitude towards its new restrictive membership on all who trial, show, register, breed survey, become helpers etc., then there would not be such a hubbub over this.  The point of this whole thing is that people had no idea of the rules and bylaws that have been in place for a long time, the amendments that have been insiduously passed every few years culminating in the latest restrictions couched in conflcit of interest if you belonged to another GSD club in the United States when by the way, USA was incorporated as a Schutzhund club - ironic.

I would indeed surmise, from USA's new restrictive bylaw amendments that plugged up the last freedom of choice holes, that they are very serious about USA only catering to USA members.  I would not want to be one caught in the crosshairs on this one; depending where you are on the food chain is how it will be pursued.  I don't think the board meant for this to be a lark.

Obviously, there is a hole in what the USA clubs have been doing insofar as members of that club and also being members of USA - I know the honest posting on this list is not singular.  It will be interesting to see just how this is all policed.  I doubt if USA wants its new bylaws to be ineffectual.  Much like when England did their ban on guns, all the honest people were turning in everything, even antique dueling pistols.  The criminals still had guns.  Laws are made for honest people.

Instead of everyone trying to figure out how to beat the new bylaws and get around them, basically break them and hope they are not caught and if so, hoping for no penalty, how about people making choices to comply not just in lip service to USA , but also their rules and regulations.  Surely the fierce membership loyal would indicate they would surely do that? Conversely, those that feel they have to cheat on the rules to continue to be a member or a member club, should buck up and move to another club.  After all, USA's restrictive membership amendments were to strengthen the organziation and protect the breed.  How can it  or the dogs become stronger if everyone cheats? 

Why would anyone create and log onto this board with the screen name niahater?
Even if you don't like someone, that's really taking it way too far IMO.
Pfui!

Sue, You have no problem being a member of a communist organization? I was born and raised in America, I believe in freedom of choice, I guess you don't. To each his own!

Kim:

             Are you really that naive? There have been people that are club members and don,t support USA for a long time,It has more to do with club and personnel loyalty then the restrictive bylaws of the elite few,you really don,t believe  that it,s a conspiracy as of late? if so you should really get out more often.

The truth of the matter is that it isn,t USA,GSDCA-WDA,AKC,or SV that have the welfare of the breed at heart it is the small breeder of working GSD,s and the grass root handlers owners,competitors not the elite trophy winners that go to world competition for there organization,s, the dues paying general public of the individual membership that in the end that has to make  the change. Those of us that are concerned about quality of dog and understand what the breed is about know whats at stake and it is us that will eventually have to make the changes it won,t be fast and it won,t be pretty but the powers that be are not forever agenda,s come and go It,s the breed that needs to stay constant and controlled not membership...Viva la revolution... lead,follow or get out of the way.

I support what USA "should" stand for not what is convient or current, you can join the movement to change or just type about it and act like there is no course of action.