2005 NASS - Page 3

Where did this dog place? That is a good question..should this dog have been disqualified..I know in my neck of the woods at the schutzhund trials a dog is disqualifed if it drags its owner away from the gunshot..

One volunteer person has been totally responsible for the NASS website. That means literally thousands of hours of donated time. The unofficial NASS results available are posted by paid personnel for other websites. The entire NASS was a local club volunteer effort. How about saying "Thank You" to those club members who worked so hard to present a high class show? Remember, there was not one ounce of official WDA physical help or financial support supplied for this event. Everything that happened was the result of the extreme commitment of a handful of people. That same handful of people is totally exhausted right now. For us, the show ended about 10:00 p.m. on Tuesday evening. About the 12-18 month gun sureness. Obviously, I didn't see that one. It is possible that the dog's reaction you may have witnessed did not occur when the dog was "officially" in the row for the gun test. If it happened when some other dogs were being tested, the judge would not have been looking at that particular dog. If the dog was steady at his/her own official turn at the gun sureness test, then the dog is permitted to continue.

well what we are saying is the dog left the ring when judge was on the back side and did not return to take thier test for the gunshot but came back when the gaiting began! my last post on this dog

The NASS Is a club event? Well that makes me look like the big idiot - you know what they say about "assuming" - however, my question at this point is should a show with such a big-time title even exist if only supported at the club level? Really, what's to stop a club from holding the CONUSASS or the ECASS or the FOUSASS or what ever? How do Sieger shows get "sanctioned" and not supported by national organizations? Part of the "problem" here is that people assume that with the title and the pomp & circumstance that there is much more supporting such an event than there appears to be. My comment about the results postings stands - as network guy I KNOW there are ways to present the results, advertise for the supporter and not provide the appearance given by the current practice. -Calvin

Unfortunately, there was a female (who placed at the top of the class) in the 12-18 month class that did literally drag the handler out of the ring during the gun shots. There was no way that the handler could get the dog back in the class because the dog was shaking and had her tail and head tucked... It took the doubler of the dog to get the dog to calm down.. It was sad, but, unfortunately, it happens. This was a very structurally correct female... There were so many dogs in this class that just was not noticed by the officials or the judge. It happens... It was a very nicely run show, and the quality of dogs was super. There will always be people who complain about things, but from my own experience, it was very well run and organized.

Thank you for confirming what i saw yes the dog was structurally built, structure without temperment is nothing. This is my point the dog placed high folks are going to see this and want to go by that and the dog is questionable. Would the dog have failed from the ring had the judge saw that reaction or would it simply have moved back in the line was my original question for even bringing the incident up?

The event was obviously well planned, well manned and efficiently run. I was there quite a bit over 3 days, and visiting with friends on the evening of the 4th day. The set up of refreshments and vendors was convenient to the rings, with a view, restroom facilities adequate for the crowd, even the last minute change of photographer worked out well with an experienced local professional who does outstanding work. Kudos to the organizers and staff. I watched much of the practice for protection, particularly the males, and the official bitework. A very few dogs I would be more than happy to walk onto a trial field with - Urban, I-Kon, Vandy, Lucca and of course, the all black Wanko. Sad to say that 2 of these dogs, one a working police K9, were placed in SG1 and2, even given their superior performances.

Just a word in support of the host club who put on this awesome event. They worked TIRELESSLY to manage a zillion details. Does everything work out 100% as planned? No. Does everything work out well in the end? Yes. Kudos to Gayle and team. Congratulations Cledford. You get the award for being the first, and only person so far who has complained about the availability of unofficial results being offered "real time" on commercial sites. DTW

I will say thank you to the host club. I'm sure the whole event took hours of planning and commitment and the outcome was very good. However, there were two areas of concern: If you didnt pay for reserved parking, you were made to park in a mall parking lot. You then had to cross a 3 lane, divided, very busy road and hop a guardrail with your dogs to enter the show grounds. This was a safety concern for people and K9's. Competitors should have had access to the field's parking lots. If you didnt turn in your show bibs with your entry number so it could be re-used at a later date, your paperwork was held hostage for a $10 fee. I thought this was totally unacceptable. Other than those two things...great job!

Cledford..since you are a techie, maybe next time there is a big event you could volunteer your time to do the "real time" updates. I figure if I need real time updates, I should have gone to the show...so thanks to all of you who posted the results.....great job... btw..where did this gunshy dog place?