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by JRANSOM on 06 January 2010 - 02:01
It really does make you stop and think, "what would I do in such a situation?" I would definately try to save my dog but I would absolutely not let my dog suffer. Also made me think of putting my dog through the ordeal of being a donor dog. He/she has no voice in the matter. I would be the one making the decision to put him/her through that. And, if I did put my dog in the position to try and save anothers life and it didn't work and the other was only suffering and had to be PTS then my dog went through all that for not. And now his/her quality of life could be compromised. Everyone who is going through this must be thinking the same thing? Owner & Donor.
I'm hoping for the best for Orso!
by Mystere on 06 January 2010 - 02:01
Personally, I don't know what I would do in Alex's place...hopefully, I never have to find out. I think, though, that I would have the same response I would, if it were about me, rather than the dog. I know I would never put myself through extensive chemo or radiation, in the event of an cancer with a very low survival rate (eg. glioblastoma). So, I wouldn't not put my dog through a joyless extention of existence, with little hope of a good quality of life at any point. That's what I say now. :-)
But, I know from experience that such positions can change, when the situation morphs from hypothetical to reality. I used to be completely opposed to the death penalty, until I was actually in a position to make a decision impacting an actual death penalty case.
by susanandthek9s on 06 January 2010 - 03:01
Interesting issue about the donor dog, JRANSOM, and one that I gave a lot of thought to before deciding to help Orso find a donor. Yes, the donor dog can't consent. For a healthy donor dog, the impact on his life will be minimal or nonexistent after recovery from surgery, but it's still a surgery.
The deciding factor for me was this: Suppose the donor dog was the one who needed a kidney. Would he want another dog to give him one? Obviously he would, and that's what decided it for me.
by vonissk on 06 January 2010 - 05:01
by susanandthek9s on 06 January 2010 - 15:01
Good job, Vonissk. If your dog needed a kidney, he wouldn't think twice about trying to get another dog to give him one.
Living people donate kidneys, and it's not that big a deal.
There's some risk, but there's risk in everything. Someone could decide not to donate, drive to the park with their dog instead of the vet for blood testing, and get smashed up by a drunk driver because they were in his path by going to the park. You just never know. There's no such thing as a risk-free existence. So you just do the best you can. I've seen a lot of people try to avoid risk by being totally selfish. It doesn't seem to work well at all.
by Two Moons on 06 January 2010 - 16:01
Buying organs is just wrong, sick.
Putting a dog through something like that is cruelty.
Put that poor dog down, and find some therapy for the owner.
Moons.
by susanandthek9s on 06 January 2010 - 17:01
Vonissk, I recommend that you continue your efforts to help Orso without letting the forum know how things progress. I also recommend that anyone who wishes to test their dog for possible kidney donation to help Orso not let the forum know about it. That way you won't have to deal with the hate posts and hate mail. Sad, but that's how it is.
by Mystere on 06 January 2010 - 17:01
Quote by Susanandthek9s: "
Vonissk, I recommend that you continue your efforts to help Orso without letting the forum know how things progress. I also recommend that anyone who wishes to test their dog for possible kidney donation to help Orso not let the forum know about it. That way you won't have to deal with the hate posts and hate mail. Sad, but that's how it is."
Susan,
You really know how to win friends and influence people. 
You came to the pdb looking for one of the things the PDB has proven to be best at: obtaining assistance and support from its members. Members of this forum have raised funds for abused spouses to make their escape, funds for dogs that needed surgery their owner could not afford, provided accommodations and jobs to other members, supplied members with computers, vehicles and homes, when they had none.
You came to this forum looking for help and support and received it. Now, this??? There has been NO "hate posts and hate mail" and for the life of me, I cannot see why you think there would be. We ALL HAVE DOGS WE LOVE AND CARE FOR. Would everyone make the same decision you and Alex have? No. But, so what?
So, what happens if Vonissk"s dog is not a suitable match? Does that mean that you won't be back seeking help from others, after making such an ugly statement?
Fortunately, this is about the DOG, not your attitude. Good Luck to Alex and Orso.
by Two Moons on 06 January 2010 - 18:01
The buying of organs and the price paid might be better off done in private.
There is nothing hateful in that statement, or the one before.
There is a reason this is illegal among humans.
My problem is putting the dog through all of this, the anti rejection therapy alone is torcher, to what end?
How much money can one throw at a problem to make it all go away.
I held off as long as I could but I have to say now this is not for the dog at all.
Its just wrong and it won't become right in private.
This is my opinion like it or not.
Moons.
by Jenni78 on 06 January 2010 - 18:01
Ignore what you don't agree with, don't get nasty, if you want to state your opinion/feelings, do so in a civil manner, and then MOVE ON.
If you feel this is a worthy cause, then help. If you don't, IGNORE IT. I don't think anyone has any ill intent; it's simply a matter of a difference of opinion, and everyone is entitled to theirs.
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