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by vonissk on 07 January 2010 - 02:01
Yes I definately resent being placed in the catagory of selling my dog's kidney for 2000. Especially by people who don't know me much less know anything about me except what I have posted on this board and that has been very little. Under my boy's pic it shows how long I have been a member here and how many posts I have posted. Very few for the time compared to some who have to post about everything whether they know anything about it or not.
And yes you can disagree with what I am doing and my road is not yours but what does being flat out mean have to do with a differing of opinions?
As far as religion goes no this doesn't have anything to do with Christianity except that God rules my life. And to the person that posted that you said I shouldn't be overriding God. How do you know that? Do you have a personal line to my prayers and answers? I don't think so.
As I said before if I wanted to make money it would definately be easier to put my boy up for public stud and breed to any bitch that the owner had the money for. Oh but he's not titled. Wow then I'd have to be put down for that. Looks like a no win situation for me here. Hmmmm.....
And yes you can disagree with what I am doing and my road is not yours but what does being flat out mean have to do with a differing of opinions?
As far as religion goes no this doesn't have anything to do with Christianity except that God rules my life. And to the person that posted that you said I shouldn't be overriding God. How do you know that? Do you have a personal line to my prayers and answers? I don't think so.
As I said before if I wanted to make money it would definately be easier to put my boy up for public stud and breed to any bitch that the owner had the money for. Oh but he's not titled. Wow then I'd have to be put down for that. Looks like a no win situation for me here. Hmmmm.....
by buckeyefan gsd on 07 January 2010 - 02:01
i was directing that to the op.
i have no care what you believe in.
good people are good people.
i originally commended your thoughts.
i just dont really know if its that good
of a thing to do.
and on the prayer note if god is worried about the dog in these times
you may want to reconsider how much you trust him
many human lives to spare with all his "power"
by JRANSOM on 07 January 2010 - 02:01
Vonissk,
I do not think that you are trying to sell your dogs kidney or trying to make money on this. I think you truly have a good heart!
I do not fault you for wanting to help this dog and I wish I could help too. My dogs are not a match. End of story there. But, if my dog/s were a match I would have to really think long and hard about it as I know you've already done and come to your decision. I applaud you for that. You are a very, very generous person. I really don't know if I could do that! That said, I have to say I don't thind being a Christian or otherwise comes into play here. You can be Aethieist (spelling) and still do what a Christian would do!
I still hope Orso gets a GOOD life. Many people have many different opinions. Doesn't make them wrong.
I do not think that you are trying to sell your dogs kidney or trying to make money on this. I think you truly have a good heart!
I do not fault you for wanting to help this dog and I wish I could help too. My dogs are not a match. End of story there. But, if my dog/s were a match I would have to really think long and hard about it as I know you've already done and come to your decision. I applaud you for that. You are a very, very generous person. I really don't know if I could do that! That said, I have to say I don't thind being a Christian or otherwise comes into play here. You can be Aethieist (spelling) and still do what a Christian would do!
I still hope Orso gets a GOOD life. Many people have many different opinions. Doesn't make them wrong.
by vonissk on 07 January 2010 - 03:01
Sorry everyone if I sounded hateful. I really didn't mean to. Thanks to the people who support me in this effort.
I have had an update--there are two matches--I know nothing other than that. 5 people stepped up to the plate so 2 outta 5 ain't bad. Not sure if I am one or not--will know more tomorrow.
I have had an update--there are two matches--I know nothing other than that. 5 people stepped up to the plate so 2 outta 5 ain't bad. Not sure if I am one or not--will know more tomorrow.
by beetree on 07 January 2010 - 17:01
It is a wonderful thing you are doing, trying to help someone and their dog in a way most would never do. Do keep us updated, as I am truly hoping (and praying) for a happy outcome for all.
by CrysBuck25 on 07 January 2010 - 18:01
If it were my dog, in my financial situation, I already know the decision I would be forced to make. That said, if you have the money to afford the care and you can find someone willing to donate, then great. Von Issk, I applaud your willingness to help, and I hope that Orso has a good, long life.
My own beliefs regarding the transplantation of organs, in either humans or animals, are deeply personal and rather controversial, so I won't post my feelings on this subject.
I just wish the best of luck to all the parties involved and hope that, for all of their hard work and worry, Orso has a long, and productive life. He will be on immune suppressing drugs for the rest of his life, if the kidney isn't rejected outright, so he may not be one hundred percent healthy all the time, but I wish everyone the best.
In this case, it really is "to each his own". We each know what we would do, or what we think we would do, and that's our choice to make. But I'm not sure that condemning someone else's choice is exactly the right thing to do...The Bible says to judge in all things, but also "judge not that you be not judged"...I take that to mean that we may judge actions as not being right but that we should not judge the person, as we know not the intentions of that person...
All religion aside, good luck to Orso and a donor, if one of the two is acceptable. May they both live long lives, and may their owners know the joy of continuing to share their lives with their beloved dogs.
Crys
My own beliefs regarding the transplantation of organs, in either humans or animals, are deeply personal and rather controversial, so I won't post my feelings on this subject.
I just wish the best of luck to all the parties involved and hope that, for all of their hard work and worry, Orso has a long, and productive life. He will be on immune suppressing drugs for the rest of his life, if the kidney isn't rejected outright, so he may not be one hundred percent healthy all the time, but I wish everyone the best.
In this case, it really is "to each his own". We each know what we would do, or what we think we would do, and that's our choice to make. But I'm not sure that condemning someone else's choice is exactly the right thing to do...The Bible says to judge in all things, but also "judge not that you be not judged"...I take that to mean that we may judge actions as not being right but that we should not judge the person, as we know not the intentions of that person...
All religion aside, good luck to Orso and a donor, if one of the two is acceptable. May they both live long lives, and may their owners know the joy of continuing to share their lives with their beloved dogs.
Crys
by Mystere on 07 January 2010 - 18:01
Wonderful that two matches were found. When will you know whether your dog was one of the matches?
by vonissk on 08 January 2010 - 02:01
OK I will update you guys with what I know. First of all I misunderstood--it was only 4 dogs being tested. 2 are no gos. Out of the other two one is a positive and one is a partial. I just talked to Alex a bit ago and he said the lab would not give him any exact info so it will probably be tomorrow before I know anything for sure.
Thanks to everyone for your encouragement. Sorry I was a little crabby last night. I got a very nice PM from someone this morning and man that was nice to start the day off with.
So like everyone else all I can do is wait. Can't pack Mr. Wonderful's bags just yet...................Main thing is I am glad there is a full match for Orso for he is the star of this play.................................
Thanks to everyone for your encouragement. Sorry I was a little crabby last night. I got a very nice PM from someone this morning and man that was nice to start the day off with.
So like everyone else all I can do is wait. Can't pack Mr. Wonderful's bags just yet...................Main thing is I am glad there is a full match for Orso for he is the star of this play.................................
by animules on 08 January 2010 - 02:01
Good of you vonissk to be willing to help. Wishing all success.
by Storms Malis on 09 January 2010 - 02:01
Vonissk, I think what your doing is amazing, good on you. I just put myself in the same position as the dog owner and yes I would hope that someone would step forward to help me. Good job. Now I will be on the edge of my seat til tomorrow to find out what happens. I know I sure don't envy either of you. It is a tough decision you guys have to make.
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