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by mikecast1 on 10 February 2010 - 21:02
This guy says,
How ridiculous!! All the Shepherds we breed are Working and Companion Dogs, and some are Show Dogs. As a 'Show' dog, the gait or trot has to be nearly perfect to compete successfully, but mentally all three types are identical. When you buy a Heidelberg Shepherd, you purchase as near perfection as is possible to breed for mentality, working, etc.
http://www.heidelberg-usa.com/
He also says his dogs are as near perfection as is possible.
How ridiculous!! All the Shepherds we breed are Working and Companion Dogs, and some are Show Dogs. As a 'Show' dog, the gait or trot has to be nearly perfect to compete successfully, but mentally all three types are identical. When you buy a Heidelberg Shepherd, you purchase as near perfection as is possible to breed for mentality, working, etc.
http://www.heidelberg-usa.com/
He also says his dogs are as near perfection as is possible.
by Sunsilver on 10 February 2010 - 21:02
but mentally all three types are identical.
Oh, lordy, lordy!
He needs to get himself a real hard working line dog! Urrrghhh...think I'm gonna barf!
My current two are different lines, and are VERY different mentally. The female is a mix of German and American lines, but is harder than the male, who is likely German working lines.
Oh, lordy, lordy!
He needs to get himself a real hard working line dog! Urrrghhh...think I'm gonna barf!My current two are different lines, and are VERY different mentally. The female is a mix of German and American lines, but is harder than the male, who is likely German working lines.
by Red Sable on 10 February 2010 - 21:02
Much better looking dogs than I've seen from other American lines in my opinion.
I couldn't find the pedigrees of the dogs though...?
by LAVK-9 on 10 February 2010 - 22:02
As I have been told by people that are very knowledgable in the area of GSDs that if anyone ever tells you that their dogs are perfect(or near perfect) they are a load of crap!! Even the few breeders out there that truely work at the genetics and try to improve the breed don't have "perfect" dogs as no dog is perfect!! Just like people..there are no perfect people.Even the Angalina Jolie has her flaws.lol
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by mikecast1 on 10 February 2010 - 22:02
I sent him a message via "comments" several months ago and asked why he doesn't include that info. I also asked hime why he does not add his dogs to the "Pedigree database" so we can see the pedigrees.
That was several months ago.
under "pictures of our top 10 winners" there is one pedigree and all are Heidelberg. I guess he does not buy outside.
That was several months ago.
under "pictures of our top 10 winners" there is one pedigree and all are Heidelberg. I guess he does not buy outside.
by LAVK-9 on 10 February 2010 - 22:02
Ch. Heidelberg's Gerry Darcy (OFA-21655G)
---------------------------------Ch Heidelberg's Gustav v Helga (OFA-28263G) Very near his ROM.
-------------------------------------------------------Anatevka Heidelberg Helga (OFA-15234G) Dam of 3 Champions------------------------------------
- -Sire: Heidelberg's Jock v Rosie (OFA -32341G)Near ROM- Sire of 7 Champions
-------------------------------------------------------Ch. Heidelberg's Gandolf v Heidelberg
(-------------------------------HHeidelberg's Rosie Tanya
--------------------------------------------------------Heidelberg's Tanya Jayneena
Ch. Ch. Heidelberg's Triumph
--------------------------------------------------------Ch. Heideberg's Gerry Darcy (OFA-21655G)
---------------------------------Ch. Heidelberg's Gustav V Helga (OFA-28263G) Very near his ROM.
---------------------------------------------------------Anatevka Heidelberg Helga (OFA-15234G) Dam of 3 Champions
--------------------Dam: Heidelberg's Dasha v Cassie (Dam of 3 Champions)
--------------------------------------------------------Am/Can Ch. Von Nassau's Defender (OFA-11096)
----------------------------------Heidelberg's Cassie Bonita
--------------------------------------------------------Heidelberg's Bonita of Ginny (Ch. H's Beaux ROM, Sister)
Ok so wouldn't this be some form of inbreeding? Or is is just real close line breeding?
---------------------------------Ch Heidelberg's Gustav v Helga (OFA-28263G) Very near his ROM.
-------------------------------------------------------Anatevka Heidelberg Helga (OFA-15234G) Dam of 3 Champions------------------------------------
- -Sire: Heidelberg's Jock v Rosie (OFA -32341G)Near ROM- Sire of 7 Champions
-------------------------------------------------------Ch. Heidelberg's Gandolf v Heidelberg
(-------------------------------HHeidelberg's Rosie Tanya
--------------------------------------------------------Heidelberg's Tanya Jayneena
Ch. Ch. Heidelberg's Triumph
--------------------------------------------------------Ch. Heideberg's Gerry Darcy (OFA-21655G)
---------------------------------Ch. Heidelberg's Gustav V Helga (OFA-28263G) Very near his ROM.
---------------------------------------------------------Anatevka Heidelberg Helga (OFA-15234G) Dam of 3 Champions
--------------------Dam: Heidelberg's Dasha v Cassie (Dam of 3 Champions)
--------------------------------------------------------Am/Can Ch. Von Nassau's Defender (OFA-11096)
----------------------------------Heidelberg's Cassie Bonita
--------------------------------------------------------Heidelberg's Bonita of Ginny (Ch. H's Beaux ROM, Sister)
Ok so wouldn't this be some form of inbreeding? Or is is just real close line breeding?
by Kimmelot on 10 February 2010 - 22:02
Please ... Don't start ripping people appart because what they think is the best for THEM is the best for them.
I drive a Dodge Ram Extra Huge truck, You may drive a Prius.. Both have there advantages and can be Perfect under the definition of getting some one from point A to B .
A Show dog can be a working dog , Just because its not playing the "Game" SCH does not mean it does not have a job or cannot bite just as hard as a truly focused DDR dog. Every animal , like every human has a personality, and you me and the tree have no right to judge what other's like or think is "as close to perfection as it gets" .
Why not list what Jobs we are talking about here??? Is your SCH/PP dog a S&R dog ? No ? Why not ?? Is your SCH dog a V1 Dog ?? No ?? Why not ? Come on here ... we have the right to love what we do , the right to love our SCH dog , our show dog, our working in the other field dog ... get off people backs.
Whisper
I drive a Dodge Ram Extra Huge truck, You may drive a Prius.. Both have there advantages and can be Perfect under the definition of getting some one from point A to B .
A Show dog can be a working dog , Just because its not playing the "Game" SCH does not mean it does not have a job or cannot bite just as hard as a truly focused DDR dog. Every animal , like every human has a personality, and you me and the tree have no right to judge what other's like or think is "as close to perfection as it gets" .
Why not list what Jobs we are talking about here??? Is your SCH/PP dog a S&R dog ? No ? Why not ?? Is your SCH dog a V1 Dog ?? No ?? Why not ? Come on here ... we have the right to love what we do , the right to love our SCH dog , our show dog, our working in the other field dog ... get off people backs.
Whisper
by LAVK-9 on 10 February 2010 - 22:02
No one is ripping on anyone....relax!! If you don't like it don't read it.
by SitasMom on 10 February 2010 - 22:02
OH MY!
http://www.ripoffreport.com/animal-abuse/heidelberg-german-sh/heidelberg-german-shepherds-eu-5be79.htm
Submitted: Friday, January 15, 2010
Heidelberg German Shepherds Eugene Thompson was suspended and fined by the AKC for using abusive language against a female at a dog show. AKC suspension housten, Texas
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/Heidelberg.aspx
and 7 other complaints.......
http://www.yellowbot.com/reviews-heidelberg-german-shepherd-spring-tx.html
25 comments - some good, come bad
http://www.ripoffreport.com/animal-abuse/heidelberg-german-sh/heidelberg-german-shepherds-eu-5be79.htm
Submitted: Friday, January 15, 2010
Heidelberg German Shepherds Eugene Thompson was suspended and fined by the AKC for using abusive language against a female at a dog show. AKC suspension housten, Texas
http://www.ripoffreport.com/Search/Heidelberg.aspx
and 7 other complaints.......
http://www.yellowbot.com/reviews-heidelberg-german-shepherd-spring-tx.html
25 comments - some good, come bad
by LAVK-9 on 10 February 2010 - 23:02
Hmmm I seem to recall the same thing happening to Ju=immy Moses when I was at an AKC show....but it was lude behavior in the bathroom with a younger girl.
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