VA 1(DK) Karat`s Ulko have lost his title - Page 2

Is this the full brother to Ulk in Germany? Is this why he has failed the bite work? Who owns the Ulk and Ulko now? Thanks

He did lose his VA1 title.

Yes he is full brother to Ulk in germany and a very beautiful dog but as you all can see he has problems to behave ;-) Well they took his VA title and the jugde have got a warning not to do a failure like this again or things will happend.

<<>> True a .... little sharp. Question? How is his progeny. I can only say for Ulk progeny as I own an Ulk son and our club member owns and Ulk son. Both from different females, Both very very strong in protection. The stronger the helper the stronger the bite. Always full and calm grips. Very good fast obedience. very good tracking. But among people and kids very social. no problems at all. But i have not heard of what Ulko throws....????. <<<>>>> Maybe.... I think It's more of a statement made as I have seen several good dogs (working and Show) that were a little on the edge and with the right trainer could have gone a long way but they had inexperienced trainers that were more interested in controlling the dog to the point that over time they became handler aggressive. <<>>. Ulko ??? Ulk a gentleman in Southern California Uwe

Does anybody have a video of Ulko failing at the 2006 USA sieger show? According to webhund he failed because of no heeling. Everybody keeps saying that this dog is dangerous. When I saw this dog at the 2005 universal sieger in Luts florida show he looked perfectly good as far as temperament. With him being sold from left to right.. Being transported to country to country and not being able to bond with a promising owner, I wouldn’t blame him for acting up. He probably didn’t get a whole lot of affection and lives inside of a kennel run all day. I hope that now he lives with Drache Feld that he can be treated like a dog. Bluenight please translate that page to English so that we can all understand what it’s being said. Not everybody here understands Danish.

"He was extremely aggressive and out of control at the 2006 U.S.A. Sieger Show and as a consequence failed the bite work." Out of control, yes he was. Extremely aggressive not what I seen. What I seen was a drivey dog, that was out of control. I personally think it might have been a planning error more then anything. The dog was put in a down at the ring entry watching the dog before him. I think the dog just drive loaded or I guess you might say overloaded! Ed

I think that the progeny of ulko are just fine here in DK and he also show the biggest progeny in 2005 but there have been alot of talking about this dog....things like who owns the dog,and its not the fist time he have bite or tryed to bite on shows and the dog have had more ownes then my old car :-) mening that who give up a dog like this if he is clear in the head.....last one was one of the best trainer in DK and he is very very good with dogs......and no the dog is not only living in a kennel.....too bad for the dog the owner and the progeny . Best Regards And thanks for your comment.

From observing **IN GENERAL** protection work with many show dogs, there is a distinct parallel to what is said about working dogs in shows - "LACK OF PREPARATION" which boils down to ***CONTROL*** in the bitework. I happen to have seen a good length of video taken of Ulko shortly after he came to the US - IMO - he showed NO signs of any handler aggression, only a big strong dog who has a new handler - who does not know Danish commands well and with whom he is still developing a relationship, but ALSO one who has alot of drive and truly wanted to get out there and rock with the helper!!! Something, which is easy to conclude by reading many of these boards and posts, that is SADLY lacking in the show lines!!! Yet the dog is being criticized for having desire to work?????????? I was not at the Sieger show. I did talk to several people who saw the dog. Ulko was not attentive to his handler, but only concentrating on the helper. The protocal for the work was different here apparently, and that was a factor. Again, if you want to know the reasons Ulko was sold and brought to the States, call Drache Feld!!! to quote bluenight "I think that the progeny of ulko are just fine here in DK and he also show the biggest progeny in 2005" - think about this!!!!!! Perhaps the large number of Ulko progeny in Denmark meant that his optimum use by breeders was nearing the end and his progeny were available for the next generations - thus his arrival in the States gives breeders here a chance to use a dog with good working drives in their programs!!!!! He is in a top quality program here and his strong qualities are appreciated!

OH - forgot to add - a rank is not LOST just because it is not repeated!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! If you fail a sch3 with a sch3 dog, he does not revert to a schh2!! No one can take away the VA1 Ulko received in Denmark!

this is in response to bluenights comment a few comments above - the dog did not "lose" his VA1 title - that was given several years ago and has nothing to do with this years USA Sieger show...given that English is not your first language, this heading is very misleading to many readers!! He merely was not able to advance this year to the show ring after the bitework!! It did not affect prior years awards. I was told [by the handler!!!!] that the warning of the judge was in the bitework to the handler as the dog would not out, and the handler attempted to physically force the dog to out. If you would like to confirm this, call the handler!!