AKC VS UKC - Page 3

One thing that left a strong impression on me many years ago was that while at a "Dog Show" a lady came up to me and had a very nice looking male GSD. She was stressed and wanted to know where the elevators were as her male (her own words) "does not do stairs". I have traveled many miles to view a dog before I bought it after that incident! Keep on learning Alphapup!

Ranger.. There is a number of folks here in Indiana that are duel registering with the UKC for conformation showing purposes. The UKC standard is much closer to the German Standard and ALOT less political than the AKC. I have not seen any "working dog people" transfering. BTW the AKC does put titles on their registrations, just not foreign titles. Now that they have a working dog devision, I wonder if someday they will start putting Schutzhund titles on? Debby

Ranger you asked a very open ended question? Next time you might want to be more specific on your question because it seems that a number of people including myself misinterpreted what you were asking. Because someone has an opinion on a matter makes them neither stupid or persuing an agenda. Certain question seem to spark alot of debte and yours did. you should be happy that people arec participating in your question as i see alot of posts go unanswered. Respectfully Michael

Michael...Everyone was lecturing on why UKC was no good etc... I already know about UKC, AKC, SV and others. I was simply trying to find out if UKC was gaining ground in other parts when I started receiving lectures, I am sorry for calling names but my intent was to get back on subject. I felt people were talking down to me like I did not have a clue. A few people have addressed my question but actually not very many people. Your right in that people did seem to have alot of interest.

Nobody was lecturing you, everyone tried to answer the questions that you posed. However, you kept wanting to tweek the question or change it altogether and then claim that those that answered previously weren't understanding the question and were stupid or idiots. Perhaps when you can function above grade school reactions and name calling, as well as form proper questions to get the answers that you are looking for, then maybe others will take the time to respond. However, they might not, because they might not want to be accused of "lecturing" when they answer a direct question that was posed.

Mike.. get a life! Your like someone's old lady who won't shut up!!

MikeRussell I was looking at your website and noticed you are into tracking dogs? While looking at your dogs are they all full blood German Shepherds? I could not tell for sure since most of your pictures are only head shots? Also, are any of them AKC registered? thanks

Mike Russell's dogs are purebreed! Now you are acting stupid. To answer your question, yes I have seen a rise in UKC events. Because somebody started a local UKC Club. Mainly mixed breeds owners who couldn't get an ILP from AKC. Some AKC registered dogs are competing in performance venues to have fun, get their dogs experience and heck earning another title is just frosting on the cake. Many of the same handlers compete in ASCA events. Have I seen a rise in UKC registration of litters, nope nobody I now is registering litters UKC. But then I don't normally hang around and rub elbows with BYB, Millers, etc. Actually, if a breeder in my area offers you UKC, CKC (not canadian) registration or states they are USDA certified you should run away as fast as you can.

I know of no one that registers or competes with UKC. Since you seem to be operating on a grade school level is Mike suppose to say something about your momma now?

No need to flame Mike Russell, DesertRanger. The UKC offers a limited priviledge program for all spayed/neutered dogs including mixed dogs, dogs of unknown pedigree, purebreds with disqualifying faults. They may compete in OB, weight pulls, agility, the total junior program and dog sports. BTW, currently the UKC does not offer any event similar to Schutzhund. The people I know who participate in UKC events have their dogs dual registered with AKC. They consider the UKC events and titles a "fun thing" and most participate in UKC events because they are fed up with the politics of the AKC ring. The intent of the UKC is not to take the place of AKC, it offers a venue where the entire family can have fun with their dogs and earn titles. IMO, the UKC events are popular because they take the place of the AKC matches that were once very plentiful and allow for mixed breeds to participate. UKC is investigating a protection event. If that does happen you may see GSD people go that way thinking they will have a better chance at achieving a title on their dog without the politics that can be involved in the SV events. Good and bad - the bad being, as I have stated in another post, removing AKC from the picture takes the millers out of the AKC paperwork loop. It also removes them from AKC scrutiny regarding the number of litters they produce. UKC is probably aware of this as well, but they do not cooperate with the local dog law unforcement to inspect these facilities for sanitation and paperwrok accuracy. The good part is that the UKC provides a relaxed atmosphere where owners can have fun with their dogs. I know of no one who takes the conformation wins seriously, but the agility accomplishments and weight pull events are on the same level with those sponsored by AKC approved clubs.