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by Jenni78 on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
I will say, however, that most people don't even come close to scratching the surface of what should be done to truly test a dog. I have had questions about my dog(s) and their training as it pertained to "what would your dog do if ___________" and midway through a conversation have found that I was talking about something completely different and on a much higher level than what they were looking for or even aware of....Ferrari to Mustang.
by steve1 on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
I have never felt insecure at all over here in Belgium as i never did when i lived in the UK, I never even thought about being attacked until i was when i went over to the UK for a long weekend and was attacked from behind by Two Young Thugs, as i have already said some time ago.
However on that occasion it was those two thugs who needed a personal protection dog to keep me off them.
All in all it is what a person feels they need to be safe we are not all alike and we do not all live in the same environment
Steve1
by SportySchGuy on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
I definitely want my dogs to engage if an intruder has a gun. Absolutely 100%!!! If they are shooting at the dog then they arent shooting at me and that means I might have more time or room to get out or to take cover and return fire.
by Jenni78 on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
Emoore, that logic only works about people paranoid about random acts of violence and unfamiliar intruders when you talk about guns.
My dog had better engage an intruder, because he likely doesn't have a gun, and I need a few seconds to get to the phone while he's being occupied by the dog.
You're talking about robberies and similar crimes with your post, and in those cases, people just plain don't want to deal with dogs, and they are far more likely to skip that house than they are shoot the dogs. Most crimes of opportunity like that are by amateurs who are really hoping not to have that much resistance.
And if they do have a gun, even more reason to have them occupied for a few extra seconds. Dogs can be trained for all sorts of handy jobs, but let's not get too far off topic;-)
by Gemini on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
Reggie
by Ace952 on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
Getting a personal protection dog after an attack is useless.
I guess you have never heard of people getting robbed 2 and 3x? You actually think once is all that happens?
FOR ME, a PPD is like a condom.......I rather have it and not need it than need it and not have it.
by VKGSDs on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
I think you're all missing my point. I never asked why anyone might need a dog but most any large dog will bark and/or serve as a deterrent regardless of whether or not that dog has protection training.
I think it's a fair question and a good distinction. I've got a black and red mutt dog, larger than all my GSDs, such a kind and gentle dog he'd probably jump up and kiss Satan himself, but the dog has a deep "don't f*** with me" bark when someone is at the door or approaching the gate. When I walk my dogs often people are more afraid of him than the obviously purebred GSDs. The truth is he is a lover and so soft but he's a great alert barker and visual deterrent.
I am a young woman, in my mid-20s. I do not believe I NEED a PPD, but I've never been assaulted, raped, I don't have any ex's, I don't have close family that work jobs that might put me at risk.
For those that are victims of violence and attack, who cares if they have a dog and feel safer? Maybe it's true they won't be attacked again, but in many cases the dog is not just protection but emotional support. You can't just tell someone with PTSD to "get over it, the attack is over" and that's that. If a dog gives someone a sense of security and helps them move on, what does that matter to me? Go ahead and get the dog.
I do protection work with my dog, but I don't call it "PPD". It is for fun, mostly. But, having powerful male GSDs I *do* want to know my dog's limits. I want to understand his drives, his triggers, his threshold. I see this as my responsibility. I choose to do Schutzhund which involves bitework and aggression so I like to go above and beyond, do more simulations with the dog, suit work, more defense and civil work. Most of this we do *without* bites, the dog alerts to a threat and is controlled by my voice. I know so much more about my dog that I would not have known if I never did Schutzhund, or even if I only did Schutzhund and no other types of bitework.
by Emoore on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
by SportySchGuy on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
I disagree completely with this statement. Getting a PPD after a violent crime can and does help a victim lead a more normal life after the attack and might prevent further attacks.
by Hundguy on 06 January 2011 - 21:01
www.youtube.com/watch
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hehehe, love the second one.
I watched a very disturbing 911 call video during my CCP class of a woman being raped and beaten while the 911 operator was on the phone.. It took 9 cops to pull the guy of the poor woman!!! I can't find that one online!!
Best Regards,
Dennis Johnson
www.johnsonhaus.com
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