2011 USA Sieger Show - Page 5

OGBS, the Sieger is a conformation show in any country in the world.

Yes, I did spend enough time in the show world to know what results from the show first breeding. Absolutely nothing that benefits the GSD as a breed and it will not turn out different for the European dogs.

 I do not question Karen's credentials or knowledge at all. I just asked what is the benefit to those who choose SV standards to exhibit to a non SV judge at this level and expense.

If UScA has chosen to place extreme emphasis on character and break from SV in placements of dogs that do not exhibit good character, then I will do my best to participate in the U.S.

Otherwise, I am just curious why the choice of non SV judges if it is just going to be the same ole same ole.

best,
Rik

Would Karen be a popular, sought-after judge in Germany? How can a USA conformation judge qualify as an SV judge?

There are many people would did not attend the last USA Sieger Show because they felt that Spitzen ratings under Johannes would have little international credibility.

I would be unlkiely to enter a show under a judge with little credibility and one who had not been announced   prior to the show. No, I've never heard of Bernd Weber before; however my dog is entered under him. Do I expect him to win? Not likely--not if dogs previously awarded VAs are shown in the Veterans Class. We are going because I have a terrific nearly 9-year-old dog--in excellent condition. We are going because he is a very social dog who loves people (and schmoozing with them), dog shows, and the experience of travelling with me, and opportunities for both of us to see old friends and to make new ones. I wish he had the opportunity to show off his excellent bite work. However, realistically, I'm not going to enter a dog of this age in the Working Class. He keeps me in shape--we walk 3 miles together every day.

I , personally, hope that Rik is at the show. I look forward to meeting him. I wish that Hexe could be there, too.  Why not, Hexe,? There will be a class for long coats.

OGBS:

What you perhaps don't understand about dog shows and show people is that many of us continue to do it year after year--not for the glory of winning--but for the social experience of being with our comrads and often dear friends. Already tonight, I'm exchanging messages with people from various parts of the nation that I look forward to seeing again or meeting face-to-face for the first time.

Steve: Please review the rules contained in the USCA's Judges Program. Pursuant to those rules, a judge who has been inactive, i. e.,not judging, is not eligible to judge any show, until that license is "rehabilitated "by a quasi apprenticeship walk -through. It is the same for performance judges who become inactive.

I don't know anything about these judges or poeple who are taking jabs at each other, I would simply like to show my dogs.  The judge doesn't really matter to me, I have never decided to go or not to go to an event because of the judge.  This is supposed to be the event of the year, it's only months away and the judges are not firmed up?  To me that raises questions of what other things aren't taken care of?  IMO for the national show I don't think it's too much to ask that at the very least, we have the judging line up when entries open.  Also I would not enter (which would cost the entry fee, handler fee, USA member fee, USA registration fee for the dog, and the roundtrip costs associated with the event) if the judges are not SV.  If my goal is to Koer my dogs eventually under an SV judge I don't want any reason for them to be able to disregard the titles/show cards.

Mary, Please let us know the exact cost for a non member to enter.  You said an extra $35 for entry and what are all the other costs?
Thanks!!

Information for Exhibitors

Important

Current USA Membership is required for entry into the USA Sieger Show if residing within the United States.

If you are a non-member, proof of a valid WUSV membership will be accepted, a $35.00 non-member fee will apply.

USA Registration

All Geman Shepherd Dogs shown at the USA Sieger Show who are 12 months and older at the time of entry/ showing, and whose owners reside within the United States MUST be individually registered with the USA Breed Registry Office.

The $35 is the only fee that is differnet for non-members vs USA members. 

Mary D
USA Sieger Show Secretary

 Mary, can a non-member UScA register their 12 months+ dog with UScA?

Mary, HOW the HELL can a non-member register a dog with USCA? Here are the requirements from the USCA website, which ANYONE (member or not) can access and view!!! Note that the first requirement is "Current USA membership." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Documents Required for Individual Registration in the USA/SV Breed Registry Current USA membership and United States residency required for the USA Breed Registry program. A. Individual German Shepherd Dog previously registered through the Verein für Deutsche Schäferhunde (SV): Original SV pedigree or other registry's registration papers indicating the SV registration information and seal. Notarized or certified copies will not be accepted. Original scorebook. Original Breed Survey Report(s). Original of all conformation show rating cards. Original hip certification (if not indicated on the SV registration certificate). Registration fee of $35.00 per dog. B. Individual German Shepherd Dog previously registered through AKC, CKC or other recognized foreign registry: International FCI rules prevent the issuance of any new registration document for dogs seeking individual registration. The registration documents from the original registering organization (such as AKC, CKC, etc.) will be stamped by the SV Breed Registry Office, indicating dual USA/SV registration. C. All individual dogs to be registered in the USA/SV Breed Registry must be tattooed. Original AKC, CKC or other foreign registry's registration certificate and AKC, CKC or other foreign registry's certified four* generation pedigree. (International FCI rules require that the original registration papers/pedigree be stamped by the SV Breed Registry office, so notarized copies or photo copies are not accepted.) Original scorebook (if applicable). Original Breed Survey Report(s) (if applicable). Original of all conformation show rating card(s) (if applicable). Original hip certification (if applicable). Registration fee of $80.00 per dog. Individual Registration Application completed and signed by the owner of the dog. Statement of Identification completed and signed by a USA Tattooer, USA Breed Warden, Licensed Veterinarian, Member of the USA Breed Advisory Committee, or Körmeister. If your dog is not already tattooed, you may use a unique tattoo number of your choice or you may obtain a tattoo number from the USA Office. To obtain a tattoo number from the USA Office, you must submit the documentation and fees listed above in Section B, items 1 through 6 along with your written request to issue a tattoo number. Your written request must include the name of the person who will be tattooing the dog. Only a licensed veterinarian or USA Tattooer may tattoo a dog with a USA issued tattoo number. Once this information and documentation is received, a tattoo number will be issued to your dog and sent to you, along with an Individual Registration Application and a Statement of Identification for completion. After the tattooing of the dog is complete return both of the properly completed and signed Individual Registration Application and Statement of Identification forms to the USA Office as soon as possible. Registration of that dog can then begin. If your dog is already tattooed, it is not required to obtain a tattoo number from the USA Office. Submit the required documentation and fees listed in Section B. items 1 through 8 to the USA Office. *A three generation pedigree will be accepted in lieu of the four generation pedigree for dogs registered with a registry that does not offer a four generation pedigree, such as CKC, NHSB, etc. This does not include AKC. USA/SV Individual Registration Forms