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by Jeff Oehlsen on 31 March 2011 - 16:03

Every dog is different. I have had more than a few dogs that had no interest in the tug sleeve jambierre when it was not on the decoy anymore.

I am not really sure why it would be necessary to "cradle" your dog. If the dog is working well on the helper, then I would probably skip it. There are no points that I know of that are given for a dogs ability to "cradle" so I would just no do it. I do like the dog to bring it back to the helper. I also do ring, and do not have the dog carry stuff around for the most part. 

by chillmaster001 on 31 March 2011 - 21:03

To jeff I dont think it's necessary and she runs back into the helper and carries around the sleeve fine. I was just wondering why she doesnt like to be craddled. I don't even try to do that anymore but I do appreciate the help and reassurance

by Jeff Oehlsen on 01 April 2011 - 15:04

I have always understood it to be a possession thing. Never really explored it, as that technique came about after I was not doing that sport anymore. I had a guy that was coming to training that did Sch and he did it, and his dog never looked comfortable, but went along with it. He really liked the idea. 

Sounds like your dog will do just fine without the cradling. Show us some video of her beating the helpers ass ! ! ! !

by chillmaster001 on 01 April 2011 - 23:04

Haha thx I appreciate the reply and I will just have to have someone set up the camera :)

by zdog on 02 April 2011 - 02:04

I think it's done for lots of reasons.  Some because they see it, and just do it. 

Personally I think it's good to teach as a puppy, because you can, not all dogs need it, not all like it at first, but as a puppy you can train it easy enough.

In the end I don't think it is necessary overall, but can be beneficial later if nothing else to have a "comfortable" spot for you and your dog to take a break while you're discussing something with your helper.  Or you can just put your dog in a down too :)

as to why your dog is doing it?  hard to tell unless i can see it, and even then it might not be important.  dont' cradle, just out and down your dog in between

Chaz Reinhold

by Chaz Reinhold on 02 April 2011 - 03:04

Greg, to answer your question, the dog is a POS. Get rid of him. I will give him a forever pet home! I think you already know the answer though, Greg. And I wouldn't mind hearing your take. I have a pup the same way. At first, I had to teach him to carry. He immediately wanted to take it to the ground and kill it. Different breed though. When I first got him, his prey wasn't where I'd like, so that was a major thing. Obedience was primarily with food, so I didn't get to work with him cradling with the toys a lot before bitework. This winter, we have done a good amount of that with his toys and we haven't done any bitework, so we'll see if that translates.

by kaoboy on 02 April 2011 - 07:04

in my experience, no more craddleing him like everyone says.
once the helper slips the sleeve do couple circles PET him then OUT him.

kick the sleeve back to the helper and the game begins again.

like everyone on this forum says.. to succeed in sport or anything with your dog.
YOU the handler must put the dog in a situation to pass or succed.
 


by chillmaster001 on 03 April 2011 - 04:04

Kaoboy:

Yeah that's what I've been doing lately and it seems to be working out well.

by kaoboy on 03 April 2011 - 06:04

great to hear.. im happy that works

poseidon

by poseidon on 03 April 2011 - 12:04

I am still curious.  So is cradling unnecessary?  Is it all a myth that cradling is to calm the nerves/ and enabling a closer bond with the handler?  Or can the dog learn more clearer and faster when the sleeve is outed soon after it is slipped?





 


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