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Pharaoh

by Pharaoh on 04 April 2011 - 17:04

Here is something you can learn from Scansen Kennels-the premier breeder of Schnauzers.

The kennel is huge, many, many acres and LOTS of employees.  They have been breeding Schnauzers for a very long time and they feed raw.  I saw the trucks arriving with loads of fresh meat. 

I was shocked by how social the dogs were.  By any measure of quantity, it is a puppy mill.  They sell dogs to Germany.  She has an excellent reputation.  Some German Schutzhund people told me it was probably the best run puppy mill, certainly the best fed.

A friend of mine bought her Schnauzer there and has faithfully followed Sylvia Hammerstrom's careful instructions.

If anyone knows about feeding pregnant females, it is Sylvia.

http://www.skansen.com/nutrition/

Good luck with your pups.  Hope this is helpful.

Michele

starrchar

by starrchar on 04 April 2011 - 17:04

My vet said she went to the Hill's plant where they make the pet food while she was in vet school and after that trip decided she would not EVER feed that stuff. She feeds raw.

Jyl

by Jyl on 04 April 2011 - 17:04

I know someone who use to work at Skansen kennels... she worked there for a short time and then quit.  I have also had several dogs from them come to my obedience classes.

FlashBang

by FlashBang on 04 April 2011 - 17:04

Question: Is your Veterinarian a certified canine nutritionist? 

I'm pretty sure the majority aren't.

eichenluft: Many serious health problems can be CAUSED by an owner feeding their dog an unbalanced raw diet.  That is, someone feeding a raw diet who doesn't educate themselves before they do, on a proper balanced raw diet. 

I would have to agree with you.  Time and time again people say, "I really want to feed my dog raw," but they think it's merely throwing the dog a piece of raw meat as its meal.  Prior to feeding raw, we read everything we could about it and talked to longtime raw feeders.  It was a food two years before we dipped our toes into raw feeding (and we even had the assistance of a mentor.)  I wouldn't look back now though.

Keith Grossman

by Keith Grossman on 04 April 2011 - 17:04

"Question: Is your Veterinarian a certified canine nutritionist? 

I'm pretty sure the majority aren't."


As can also be said of probably 99.99999% of the rest of the population including virtually anyone posting to this forum or debating this issue elsewhere on the internet.

steve1

by steve1 on 04 April 2011 - 17:04

I have to laugh at some of you Guys in your scathing comments about Vets, They spend 4 to 5 years training to do that job yet many of you Guys reckon they are Crap,
But who do you go to when you really get trouble with a Dog, for instance he is choking on a piece of bone the Witch Doctor i suppose, Vets may not train that amount of time in nutrition, but what makes me laugh is some of you Guys know more than Vets do so you think. 
How many of you been trained in Canine Nutrition at collage, i would not think many at all,
 Yet you down a practice which we mere mortals cannot do without at times, only you know alls do not ever need them
YES, this post is meant to be sarcastic for some of you are worth that sarcasm because you talk such rubbish at times.
Steve1

by Bob McKown on 04 April 2011 - 18:04


 My vet isn,t keen on raw either I feed Chicken and Beef in the mornings alternating and TOTW at nite 12 hours latter. My vet does admit my dogs are always healthy. In conversations he speaks of perferated bowl and surgery but it is usually on small dogs and from people who cook there bones.

 I don,t argue with my vet or belittle him because Steve is right they are the ones who went to school and are practising medicine. It really depends on your relationship with your vet. I know from posts here many have several vets they go to where I have just one who does it all. I,m happy,He is happy and dogs are happy it,s a good working relationship.

  
   

Slamdunc

by Slamdunc on 04 April 2011 - 19:04

If you are going to feed raw, do your research.  Grains and carbs are not needed for dogs, they are simply fillers.  Dogs do not utilize carbs in the way humans do, fat is a preferred energy source for a dog.  Raw bones are an essential component in a raw diet.  If you are feeding raw and not feeding raw bones you are not giving your dog all the nutrients it requires.  My male was eating chicken wings at 4 weeks old and has been on a raw diet ever since.  My 12 year old GSD eats chicken quarters every day with no problems. 

I rarely add greens but if I do they have to be pureed to break down the cellulose or the dogs can not digest the vegetables. I add green tripe and whole raw eggs a couple of times a week.  I mix in other organ meat like liver and heart periodically and try to rotate my protein sources.  I feed primarily chicken quarters and beef.  I feed venison when I can get it and have about 100 lbs in my freezer now. 

It is not rocket science it just takes common sense and a little more effort.

Jim

by kaoboy on 04 April 2011 - 19:04

your vet is a retard...

and btw raw is not 100percent better then kibble.

get your facts straight.. not if your cheap and by kibble from walmart. then raw is much much better.

but i buy orijen fish.. one of the best kibble on the market. and no grain. research is key!
i also feed raw with kibbles.

but your vet is just trying to sell the sponsar for the clinic.
no harm in that. its all business

Sunsilver

by Sunsilver on 04 April 2011 - 20:04

Another risk of raw is impactions caused by bones. Just last week, a lady got her dog a large, sterilized knuckle bone. The pet store and the packaging both claimed this bone WOULD NOT SPLINTER.

Well, over the course of the day, while the lady was at work, her dog devoured almost the whole thing, and got obstructed as a result. With lots of laxitives, everything passed okay, though the vet was worried they might have to resort to surgery.

So, moral of the story: dogs MUST be supervised when given bones. If you're going to feed raw, KNOW what the do's and don'ts are. Too much bone can be dangerous.





 


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