Vet said feeding raw is the worst thing ever for dog - Page 3

SS, that has nothing to do with raw feeding. That is a common sense problem and a COOKED BONE. NO COOKED BONES ARE APPROPRIATE FOR DOGS. 

Here is a web site on pet nutritioun by Dr. Susan Lauten who has a master's degree in animal nutrition (not human nutrition) and a PhD in biomedical sciences from Auburn University (one of the top vet schools in the US):  http://www.petnutritionconsulting.com/index.htm.  Dr. Lauten will respond to email questions for free.  She definitely has the educational background to give advice on what to feed your dog.

I've seen litter after litter fed raw with zero issues ever.  Puppies can't digest RAW??? ok.  I guess the raves from my vet about how healthy and balanced they are as they develop and how healthy they are full grown is just a mirage.  Learn to balance it and you'll be fine.

I have found great success with the raw diet I have my bitch and her puppies on. Oma's Pride. As for the OP question, I also give my bitch Puppy Gold ordered from K9 Power. I start her on this before she conceives, and continue right through weaning, keeping the puppies on it. I am switching her over to show stopper now.

My holiistic vet (different vet than the one that went to the kibble plant)  vet works closely with an animal nutritionist (has his masters in animal nutrition) who is very knowledgeable about diet for dogs and he (the nutritionist) is very much pro raw diet. I have spoken to him directly and he claims all kibbles, even the very best such as Orijen and TOTW, have things in them that can cause problems with some dogs. Plus, kibble is cooked at extremely high temperatures which kills all of the enzymes and a lot of the nutrients. They try to add ingredients back in to the mix to make up for it, but it isn't the same. There is no way it can be as good as raw. This is not my opinion, but the opinion of an expert in his field.

What some of you Guys are saying and this includes starrchar, that if a Dog is fed Raw properly as suggested by the Raw feeder experts on here, not just food thrown at them then all dogs will live a better healthier life than dogs fed on a top brand Kibble such as Orijen.
So we can expect them to remain in good health  throughout the life time of the dog. Well i say again NONE of my Dogs have EVER in there LIfe time had any health related problems due to eating Kibble, and i repeat No Raw fed Dog looked better or acted with more energy that my Dogs fed on Kibble.
I say that i had never fed a Dog on Raw i made a mistake i have, Long before many of you Guys were Born, My first ever Dog was fed Raw meaty Bones from the Butcher after mother had removed some of the Meat for us Kids.
Then the dogs food was supplemented with scraps from the left overs of what we had. He died around 11 years of age, Date  Tiny was born was around 1951
I did post a Pic of him on here once i will find it out anfd post it again
All i can say about this thread is this
If you can afford to feed whatever you prefer then do it, Raw or Kibble but with Kibble make sure it is grain free, Then if the dog keeps well then there is never a reason to change anything
Feeding Dogs or any animal or bird is the easiest thing in the world, nothing hard or sinister about it, More damage is done to Dogs through being over fed, Most related Human illness is due to over eating  YOU simply cut back when you dip your hand in the Kibble Bag or Freezer nothing hard about that
Steve1

Steve,
Good post I couldnt agree more! One thing I would like to add to what you said is that people should be carefull to not over supplement their dogs too. Alot of people will add way to many supplements to their dogs diet, whether that is raw or kibble, and this will cause kidney issues later on.

 

an animal nutritionist (has his masters in animal nutrition) who is very knowledgeable about diet for dogs and he (the nutritionist) is very much pro raw diet.

Starrchar, what is the name of the animal nutritionist you wrote about?  What are his credentials?  Dr. Susan Lauten has a master's degree in animal nutrition, a PhD in biomedical science, has a web site stating her credentials, provides consulting to vets, is an author on pet nutrition, and taught at a teaching veterinary hospital.  She is NOT pro raw (I know because I emailed her asking her opinion on it.  She is not totally against it, but does not promote it.).

SS, that has nothing to do with raw feeding. That is a common sense problem and a COOKED BONE. NO COOKED BONES ARE APPROPRIATE FOR DOGS. 


Yes it DOES. Because even if the bones fed ARE raw, too much bone can still cause a blockage. I have done some reading about raw, and those feeding raw are warned to watch the dog's stools to make sure they are not becoming too hard due to too much bone in the diet. Just ask any vet, and I can guarantee you they will have had to disempact numerous dogs that have blocked up due to too much bone!

The owner I mentioned in m y post above knew that cooked bones are a no-no to eat, but she was reassured that this bone WOULD NOT SPLINTER, or she would never have bought it.

I think it's a myth that raw bones are safe, and cooked bones are not. My dog scarfed down some chicken wing bones while we were on a walk, and the next day she was showing weird symptoms. When the vet x-rayed her, there was no sign of the bone. It had been dissolved by her stomach acid. It turned out her symptoms were due to arthritis in the spine, which had been aggravated by the longer than usual walk we'd done. Most poultry we eat is from young birds, and the bones are still very soft and pliable and not fully formed. Even a human can crunch up a chicken leg bone with their teeth.

A bone from a fully mature bird is a different story, especially if it's been allowed to dry out. Those I would not take a chance on.
 

I don't get it. Anything fed improperly can be dangerous. Feeding vitamin supplements improperly is dangerous. Letting a dog eat too much kibble too fast after running can be dangerous. Feeding bone in a raw diet does not consist of handing a dog a sterilized bone - that bone has been cooked and has all of the meat scraped off.